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Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer

Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Joe Patrice, Kathryn Rubino and Chris Williams. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Jan 8, 2020

In Memoriam… To All The Law Firms We Lost Last Decade

Biglaw firms seem like they have a license to print money... until they don't.

Dec 30, 2019

The Top Stories of 2019

A recap of Above the Law’s last 12 months.

Dec 23, 2019

Impeachapalooza

So that just happened.

Dec 17, 2019

The Happiest Time Of The Year: Bonus Time!

Biglaw firms are handing out bonuses... but some are reacting with bah humbug.

Dec 10, 2019

The One Thing That Might Force Law Schools To Be More Practical

Technology is revolutionizing discovery -- young lawyers need to find a new way to learn the process.

Dec 3, 2019

Fighting For The Innocent (Rebroadcast)

Mark Godsey discusses his conversion to an advocate for the wrongfully convicted and his grasp of the psychology that consistently lands the wrong people in prison.

Nov 26, 2019

The Roberts Court Is Here

With Kavanaugh's arrival, the last Term provided a glimpse of the fully armed and operational Roberts Court.

Nov 19, 2019

Preparing For The Bar Exam — The Last Test You’ll Ever Take

The bar exam is a daunting obstacle, but it doesn't have to be.

Nov 12, 2019

Making The Profession Work For Military Spouses

Technology is making it easier to be a lawyer constantly on the move.

Nov 5, 2019

Birds, Books, And Blogs. Oh My!

So many topics to fit under one roof.

Oct 29, 2019

Let’s Get Wildly Off Topic

This impeachment thing has a way of taking over.

Oct 22, 2019

Law School Students Need To Figure Out Where They’re Going To Work

The interview process is intense. We're here to help.

Oct 15, 2019

The Challenges Facing In-House Counsel In 2019

Legal departments have their own problems that other lawyers may not appreciate.

Oct 8, 2019

Lawyers On TV

It was a good week for legal eagles on the airwaves.

Oct 1, 2019

Sure Impeachment Is Serious, But Look At This Lawyer Cat!

Is there a limit on how many cat puns we can have purr episode?

Sep 25, 2019

The Opioid Suits

Your guide to the lawsuits coming for Big Pharma.

Sep 17, 2019

Revenge Is A Dish Best Not Served To Guests In Weil’s Cafeteria

The week where Biglaw lunchroom policy got wrapped up in ongoing litigation threats.

Sep 10, 2019

The Many, Many Obstacles To Biglaw Diversity

The Mansfield Rule is a laudable initiative, but not nearly enough.

Sep 3, 2019

When Are Lawyers To Blame For Their Clients?

Lawyers often run for office -- and their past clients often become talking points.

Aug 27, 2019

From the Archives: The Future of the Law Firm (Rebroadcast)

A chat with former Orrick chief Ralph Baxter about what's next for firms.

Aug 20, 2019

Scintillating Sports Law Takes

Law and Sports Collide This Week.

Aug 13, 2019

Would You Rather? But Legal

Some hypothetical legal quandaries to contemplate.

Aug 6, 2019

What A Week In Legal News

A quick hit recap of the top stories in law.

Jul 30, 2019

Breaking Down The Mueller Hearings

Lawyers watch Mueller very differently.

Jul 23, 2019

Academia Means Never Having To Say, ‘I Got Fired’

A law school professor appeared on a panel and declared that America needs "fewer nonwhites." She is still employed.

Jul 16, 2019

Jeffrey Epstein’s Legal Aftermath

A whole lot of lawyers are going to end up as collateral damage in the Epstein case.

Jul 9, 2019

All Those Lower Courts You’ve Been Sleeping On

Joe and Elie talk about the court system in the nation and the lower courts that no one usually talks about.

Jul 2, 2019

An Independence Day Lesson In Interviewing

Joe and Elie bring back an old topic from 2018 where they discussed how to master on-campus interviews, so this independence day they give their listeners some lessons on the topic.

Jun 25, 2019

Facing Consequences And Moving On

Hanna Stotland discusses her article about Kyle Kashuv's now-revoked Harvard admission, why she believes Harvard made the right move and where Kashuv will go from here.

Jun 18, 2019

So Many Mistakes, So Little Time

Joe and Kathryn come back with another edition of legal topics: Alan Dershowitz, Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court clerk hiring, and many more.

Jun 11, 2019

Making Legal Technology Intuitive

Ryan Steadman of Zero sits down with Joe and Elie to talk about legal technology and how to get professionals to adopt it in their work.

May 28, 2019

Checking In On The Plaintiffs’ Side

Jay Edelson of Edelson joins Elie and Joe to talk about his involvement in matters as disparate as electronic privacy, college football safety, and the California wildfires.

May 21, 2019

Around the Gavel

Elie remains missing in action (crying about Game of Thrones) so Joe and Kathryn are left to do another ESPN inspired legal podcast

May 7, 2019

Pardon The Injunction

Joe Patrice and Kathryn Rubino offer a PTI-inspired roundup of the week's legal news items in short, two-minute bursts.

Apr 30, 2019

Law School Decision 2019 (Part II)

Joe and Elie continue to offer their answers on questions from prospective law students asking “where should I go to school?”.

Apr 23, 2019

Law School Decision 2019 (Part I)

Joe and Elie answer Law Student's questions about how to decide which law school is right for them.

Apr 16, 2019

Biglaw Continues To Struggle With Gender Equity

Kathryn Rubino joins Joe to discuss the recent lowlights in Biglaw gender equity.

Mar 26, 2019

The Odd Couple

After George Conway's most recent salvo against Donald Trump, Joe and Elie discuss the curious relationship of the senior Wachtell lawyer and Trump's senior aide.

Mar 19, 2019

Giving It The Old College Scam Try

Joe and Elie take a dive into the college admissions scandal going on with celebrities and their children.

Mar 15, 2019

Bonus Podcast: Prosecution v. Defense and the Realities of ‘Proven Innocent’

Jerry Buting and Jackie Maloney debate about the prosecution versus defense and how the portrayals on FOX TV’s ‘Proven Innocent’ compare to reality.

Mar 12, 2019

Law School Rankings Recap

Joe and Elie discuss the US News and World Report law school rankings and breaks down who's on top and who's making big moves -- both good and bad -- in this...

Feb 22, 2019

Bonus Podcast: Exploring The Tragedy Of Wrongful Convictions At The Heart Of FOX’s ‘Proven Innocent.’

FOX's "Proven Innocent" creator David Elliot, California Innocence Project managing attorney Michael Semanchik, and real-life exoneree Jason Strong, talk about wrongful convictions and the inspiration behind the new show.

Feb 19, 2019

Democracy Is Troublingly Fragile

Ian Bassin, the Executive Director of Protect Democracy, talks about the pressing task of defending democratic institutions from authoritarianism.

Feb 15, 2019

Bonus Podcast: Proven Innocent

Executive producer Danny Strong talks about the new legal drama “Proven Innocent” and what drew him to the subject of wrongful convictions.

Feb 13, 2019

The Michael Avenatti Interview

Joe and Elie welcome Michael Avenatti to talk about him challenging Michael Cohen and Donald Trump over their treatment of his client, as well as his thoughts on the 2020 presidential candidates.

Feb 5, 2019

The Future Is Now

Joe and Elie attended the Legaltech NY conference, as well as talked about the future of law and the future of law conferences.

Jan 29, 2019

They Don’t Get PR Flacks

Elie and Joe have thoughts about the media's willingness to cave to every request of a public relations firm.

Jan 22, 2019

The Best (Lawyer) A Man Can Get — Not Rudy

Elie and Joe talk about Rudy Giuliani's bizarre turn from respected former prosecutor and stealth layoffs appearing in the Biglaw world again.

Jan 15, 2019

On Emojis And Shutdowns

Joe and Elie talk about the acceptability of emojis in workplace communication and the slow death of the Department of Justice under the weight of the shutdown.

Jan 8, 2019

Happy New Year! Everything’s Awful

Joe Patrice and Kathryn Rubino cover stuff as well as New Year's "bliss".

Your Hosts
Joe Patrice

Joe Patrice is an Editor at Above the Law. For over a decade, he practiced as a...

Kathryn Rubino

Kathryn Rubino is a member of the editorial staff at Above the Law. She has a degree...

Chris Williams

Chris Williams became a social media manager and assistant editor for Above the Law in June 2021....

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