Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.
Joe and Elie discuss how they chose their law schools, and how others should do what they say, not necessarily what they did.
On this episode, PwC's Oscars mistake and why they still won't get fired.
Willkie Farr's representation of Alma Kashkooli, a 12-year-old Iranian girl coming to the U.S. for surgery in the midst of the administration's travel ban.
Elie and Joe talk about Apple, Samsung, knock offs, child labor, Melania Trump, and open toed shoes… in that order… with Fashionista editor Tyler McCall.
In this legal podcast from the Above the Law blog editors, Elie and Joe award those in the legal industry who entertained us this year.
Joe and ATL Editor Kathryn Rubino discuss Biglaw bonus season as firms place the final cherry atop associate compensation after a tumultuous year of raises.
Libel law expert and former Bloomberg Global Media Counsel Charles Glasser talks about the future of the press.
Joe and Elie talk to fellow ATL editor David Lat about the recent APP Conference in Philadelphia bringing together practitioners and thought leaders to discuss the future of legal practice. And Elie and Joe argue about public schools.
Joe and Elie discuss the Philadelphia legal market with attorney Steven Silver.
Elie and Joe chat with SCOTUSBlog contributor and Supreme Court litigator Tejinder Singh about the upcoming Supreme Court Term. The docket lacks the blockbuster issues of past years, but there are still some critical cases pending before the 8-member Court.
Joe Patrice brings on Chad Burton and Nicole Bradick of CuroLegal to cohost a wide-ranging discussion with LegalZoom General Counsel Chas Rampenthal.
Joe and Elie debate the Clinton Foundation, back to school issues, and the efficacy of taking classes with “famous” professors, just so you can name drop at parties.
Joe and Elie chat with attorney Drew Rossow, author of Gotta Catch... A Lawsuit?, about the legal challenges surrounding Pokémon Go.
Elie and Joe chat with Professor Bill Henderson, an expert in legal industry economics, to discuss the recent increase in associate salaries.
From summer associate etiquette to proper lunching locations, to living as a full-time associate in a world of summers, Joe Patrice and Kathryn Rubino discuss how to tackle the summer and reminisce about their own summer adventures.
Joe and Elie chat with Research Director Brian Dalton about the latest law school rankings from Above the Law and trends in legal education. Do you want to know where you should go to law school? Do you just want bragging rights over your colleagues from rival schools? Either way this podcast is for you.
Joe and Elie chat with Dean Strang, the breakout legal star — if that’s the right word for a documentary — of Netflix’s Making A Murderer. Along with attorney Steven Chung, the gang chats with Strang about the state of the criminal justice system and the persistent plague of prosecutorial overreach.
Elie Mystal and First Amendment Lawyer Marc Randazza talk about the Hulk Hogan verdict, the right to be forgotten, and how Europe seems to be getting along just fine without ruining everybody's Google footprints.
Elie and Joe talk to Professor Peter Irons about Justice Scalia’s vacancy and the often very personal stories of the people who bring their cases to the United States Supreme Court. Listen to Elie’s mind being blown in real-time by a personal account of the life of Fred Korematsu. Peter Irons is the author of numerous...
Elie and Joe talk with a drone law expert about the expanding rights of drones and the diminishing rights of property owners who want to stop them. Steven Hogan is an associate with the law firm Ausley & McMullen and practices in the areas of commercial litigation and state and federal tax law. Before joining...
Joe and Elie chat with election law expert Professor Rick Hasen about the Iowa Caucuses, Ted Cruz’s infamous mailer, and Citizens United as the presidential election kicks into gear.
Do Droids have rights in the Star Wars universe? Are they “pets?” Does Jabba’s treatment of droids reveal him to be more evil than the Empire? Spoilers follow.
With the Court seemingly poised to strike down affirmative-action in Fisher v. Texas, Elie, Joe and Renwei Chung debate how we got here and the future of diversity in higher education.
Elie and Joe chat with Robert Schenk of Schenk Smith and proprietor of the Wedding Industry Law Blog about the oft-overlooked legal minefield that is getting married. Venues, vendors, and “DJ-Gate” loom large as Schenk explains how he found this niche and used it to build his small firm practice.
Joe and Elie chat with Slate Senior Business and Economics correspondent Jordan Weissmann about the economics of law schools. From Northwestern renaming itself for a huge endowment to a law professor taking to the media to say he sees no problem taking tuition from students who will never be able to practice, the economics of...
Joe and Elie chat with Gary Ross of Jackson Ross about starting your own firm, the unique challenges of transactional small law, and his blockbuster Above the Law column about legal sexual prowess.
Joe and Elie talk with Vanderbilt Career Services Officer Nick Alexiou about the legal job market, and the presidential job market.
Elie and Joe complain about the media’s abysmal coverage of court cases before previewing the upcoming Supreme Court Term with a real-life Supreme Court litigator, Tejinder Singh, a partner at Goldstein & Russell (http://www.goldsteinrussell.com/attorneys/tejinder-singh/) and contributor to SCOTUSBlog. What’s next for the Supreme Court? If you said, “a lot of pro-business decisions” you’re probably right!
Elie and Joe talk with Steve Silver of The Legal Blitz about all the off the field problems associated with “OMG I think that’s brain coming out of his ear”-Ball.
Joe talks to Jared Correia, Assistant Director and Senior Law Practice Advisor at LOMAP and host of Legal Talk Network’s Legal Toolkit and Lunch Hour Legal Marketing about what lawyers, especially small firm and solo lawyers, need to know about running their own firm. As one might expect, the discussion takes some twists and turns before ending up on the...
Joe chats with Kat Griffin of Corporette about women’s professional fashion, the confusion of business casual and whether office temperatures unfairly target women.
Joe and Elie take a break from the usual format to face off in a trivia challenge. Do you know your constitutional amendments? How about your Supreme Court history? Play along at home.
Elie and Joe speak to Rick Hasen, professor at UC Irvine and author of Election Law Blog. Professor Hasen explains the recent Supreme Court redistricting case, future cases regarding voting rights, and talks about the relationship between the Roberts Court and disenfranchisement. Joe argues for hope while it seems like Elie believes we should be...
Joe and Elie talk to Matthew Dowd, a partner at Andrews Kurth. Dowd famously represents the Meitiv family, the parents (now cleared) of child neglect charges for allowing their children, 10 and 6, to walk through their neighborhood unattended. Elie expresses concern over letting children roam free, while Joe thinks independence is key to building...
Elie and Joe chat with Joshua Gilliland and Jessica Mederson of The Legal Geeks about their legal careers and the legal issues surrounding the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Recorded immediately before the release of Avengers 2, they speculate on the legal issues that arise in building genocidal robots, cleaning up the aftermath of superpowered mayhem, and just how...
Elie and Joe talk with Brian Dalton, Research Director at Above the Law, about the 2015 law school rankings published by Above the Law. The annual ranking of the Top 50 law schools in the country boasts some surprising shakeups at the top. After discussing the latest rankings, the gang discusses what really matters: what...
Elie and Joe sit down with Maria de Cesare, a lawyer from a major cable network, to talk about the fabulous life of an entertainment lawyer. After she stops crying, we figure out whether you should be jailed for killing a zombie, or a clone of yourself.
Elie and Joe sit down with Ryan Morrison, aka The Video Game Attorney, to discuss the emerging legal issues in the video game industry and just how many genocide treaties humans breach in every video game ever.
It’s March Madness time. Or, as a person with a rudimentary respect for trademark laws would say, “It’s time for the NCAA Mens College Basketball Tournament.” In this episode, we take a look at running an office bracket pool. But it turns out that gambling is illegal in most states. Why is that the case?...
In our inaugural episode, Elie and Joe take a deep dive into their own navels. What kind of person becomes a “legal blogger” in the first place? In the words of Admiral Stockdale (Google him): Who are we? Why are we here?
Elie Mystal is the Managing Editor of Above the Law Redline and the Editor-At-Large of Breaking Media. He’s appeared...
Joe Patrice is an Editor at Above the Law. For over a decade, he practiced as a litigator at...