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Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer

Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Joe Patrice, Kathryn Rubino and Chris Williams. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Jun 28, 2023

Justice Alito Doth Protest Too Much

Talking about Supreme Court scandals, marijuana rights, and the top law schools out there.

Jun 21, 2023

This Is Why You Need To Pay Your Lawyers

Because someday you might face massive espionage charges... or something.

Jun 14, 2023

Donald Trump Got Indicted For Toilet Espionage But We Still Need To Talk About This Bear Cop

When you think about it, is a deputized bear really weirder than keeping classified documents in a bathroom with two chandeliers?

Jun 7, 2023

Free Speech Hypocrisy, Hot Bench Troubles, And ChatGPT Legal Research

Maybe the woman who called the cops on a Black birdwatcher should try using ChatGPT to make up some fake caselaw for her appeal because the real ones aren't helping.

May 31, 2023

Biglaw’s 4-Day Mandatory Office Week Is A Big Gamble

And the Supreme Court's ethical problems just won't go away.

May 24, 2023

Ron DeSantis Is A Walking Law School Exam Of What Not To Do

How can one guy mess up this much? Ron DeSantis is about to announce a run for president, but meanwhile he’s botching remedial civil procedure and running face first in the Fourteenth...

May 17, 2023

Finally We Have U.S. News Law School Rankings… And They’re Weird

Joe and Chris talk about law school, layoffs, and basic decency.

May 10, 2023

How Have We Not Yet Hit The Bottom Of The Clarence Thomas Scandal?

When you list all of the revelations of the past month, it's impressive.

May 3, 2023

Bold Proposal: Let’s Just Convict People Of Crimes We Can Prove They Committed

Also Ron DeSantis is getting beaten up by Disney again.

Apr 26, 2023

The Supreme Court Ethics Scandal That Just Won’t End

Yes, there's still more to say about Clarence Thomas.

Apr 19, 2023

Clarence Thomas: The Convenient Textualist

Who reads all of the statute anyway?

Apr 12, 2023

What’s Half A Million Dollars Among Friends And Easily Corruptible Government Figures?

Clarence Thomas takes some me time.

Apr 5, 2023

Disney’s Newest Princess Dooms Ron DeSantis

Also Morgan & Morgan has had it with insurance lobbyists and the legal profession is losing talent to OnlyFans.

Mar 29, 2023

Biglaw Office Policies: You Catch More Associates With Honey Than Vinegar

Latest podcast also talks about ranking the best law schools the worst way possible.

Mar 15, 2023

Federal Judge Turns Law School Event Into Pro Wrestling Style Spectacle

Also, Elon Musk really needs legal counsel.

Mar 8, 2023

Federal Judge Didn’t Know Handcuffing Crying Children Was Frowned Upon

And a pop quiz: do you know what 'bofadeez' is?

Mar 1, 2023

There’s Only Loud Quitting In Law Firms

And Sidney Powell drew the judge she needed at the right time.

Feb 22, 2023

Infamy And The Billable Hour

Clarence Thomas is getting a statue... allow your imagination to run wild.

Feb 15, 2023

The ABA’s Bold Stance Against Losers (Of The Civil War)

On the latest episode of Thinking Like A Lawyer, Kathryn and Chris ponder the need for a rule against Confederate flags in courtrooms in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA the year of...

Feb 8, 2023

Have You Considered Not Lying Under Oath?

Also, let's talk about Biglaw and cancel culture.

Feb 1, 2023

The Justices Are One Big, Happy Family, Says Justice No One Likes

Also, some salty law school talk.

Jan 25, 2023

Supreme Court Leaves Nine Stones Unturned

And what's going on with the legal market right now?

Jan 18, 2023

Maternity Leave Scandal A Reminder That Lawyers Still Don’t Understand ‘Benefits’

Also, Joe Biden's documents elicit special counsel attention.

Jan 11, 2023

Layoffs & Mergers Highlight A Bumpy Year Ahead

It’s only the beginning.

Jan 4, 2023

Biglaw Closes Out The Year With Some Shenanigans

Always waiting until the last minute.

Dec 28, 2022

2022 Legal Year In Review

Looking back at the good... and mostly bad.

Dec 21, 2022

Biglaw Firm Seeks Its Pound Of Bar Prep Flesh

It's all about optics.

Dec 14, 2022

Dickensian Law Firms

Also the country may have dodged a constitutional bullet.

Dec 7, 2022

Sam Alito Successfully Deploys The Shaggy Defense

But they caught me with some contemporaneous third-party emails?

Nov 30, 2022

To Test Or Not To Test

ABA poised to eliminate standardized testing requirement... but should it?

Nov 23, 2022

Driving A Stake Through U.S. News

Also, bonus season begins!

Nov 16, 2022

Game Of Owns: The 2022 FedSoc Convention

Annual gathering aims to silence woke heretics... misses spectacularly.

Nov 9, 2022

The Drumbeat Of Layoffs Getting Louder

It's not 2009 all over again, but it's not great.

Nov 2, 2022

Ye’s New Single Should Be “Biglaw Walks”

Also, hybrid work models show strain.

Oct 26, 2022

Donald Trump Trying To Use The Courts For His Petty Grudges. Again.

Donald Trump is threatening a dumb lawsuit against the Pulitzer committee, but is it dumb like a fox? Because the right certainly has New York Times v. Sullivan in their crosshairs. There’s...

Oct 19, 2022

Bar Exam Cheating Tale Almost Too Stupid To Believe

Also lawyers don't make enough money... maybe.

Oct 13, 2022

Clio Conversations

Joe went to a conference... here's what went down.

Oct 5, 2022

It’s Not A Lie If You Believe It.

But it might make you a sociopath.

Sep 28, 2022

Playing Stupid Games

Receive The Appropriate Prizes.

Sep 21, 2022

Dueling Speeches Spice Up Supreme Court Offseason

And we speak of mermaids and copyrights.

Sep 14, 2022

Law School Reform Gets Some Unlikely Support

Also, judges need to get their act together.

Sep 7, 2022

Telling My Grandkids Judge Aileen Cannon Was Just Andy Kaufman Doing A Bit

See, it was an elaborate art piece to demonstrate the futility of law.

Aug 31, 2022

Trump Judge’s Crim Pro Choose Your Own Adventure

Um... 28 U.S.C. Section... Why Not?

Aug 24, 2022

Humanitarian Crises Strike The Legal Profession

We didn't plan to get this deep into the feels, but here we are.

Aug 17, 2022

Trump’s Legal Braintrust May Need To Take Remedial Crim Pro

The FBI’s search of Trump’s residence has brought on a whole lot of caterwauling on cable news and social media from lawyers and law professors in Trump’s orbit. Yet no one seems...

Aug 10, 2022

Punitive Damages Cap In Alex Jones Case Is The Ultimate Jury Nullification

Alex Jones is not going to be paying anything near what the jury determined.

Aug 3, 2022

Bar Exam Working To Prove Its Own Irrelevancy

This podcast must vest, if at all, within 21 years...

Jul 27, 2022

Don’t Do What This Lawyer Did

Mistakes were made.

Jul 20, 2022

Maybe Elon Musk Shouldn’t Have Waived All Those Protections?

Due diligence is your friend, Elon. Twitter has sued Elon Musk for walking away from his plans to purchase the company and it’s hard to see how Musk gets out of this...

Jul 13, 2022

Doth Protest Too Much? Not According To The Supreme Court

Plus Texas targets Biglaw.

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Joe Patrice

Joe Patrice is an Editor at Above the Law. For over a decade, he practiced as a...

Kathryn Rubino

Kathryn Rubino is a member of the editorial staff at Above the Law. She has a degree...

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