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Thinking Like a Lawyer - Above the Law

Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Nov 27, 2018
Thanksgiving Break

Joe is left solo to make a few announcements about upcoming opportunities with the Above the Law team.

Nov 20, 2018
It’s Finals Week for Law Students!

Joe and Elie give their best tips on how to prepare for law school finals week.

Nov 13, 2018
A Wild Week In Law School News

Joe and Elie check in on what's happening with law schools these days.

Nov 6, 2018
The Rise Of The Freelance Lawyer

Greg Garman and Talitha Gray talk about their platform, Lawclerk, and how they help efficiently match freelancers with small shops needing a dose of expertise.

Oct 30, 2018
New Law School Rankings, The Plight Of The Managing Partner, And In-House Work In The #MeToo Era

Joe and Elie recap the top legal stories of last week.

Oct 23, 2018
Law School Campuses In The Wake Of Kavanaugh

Melissa Murray discusses her reaction to student walk-outs and protests and dives into the overall mood on law school campuses these days.

Oct 16, 2018
Fighting For The Innocent

Mark Godsey discusses his conversion to an advocate for the wrongfully convicted and his grasp of the psychology that consistently lands the wrong people in prison.

Oct 9, 2018
Getting Paid As A Lawyer Really Shouldn’t Be So Hard

Sarah Schaff discusses her legal career and how she's shifted to become an entrepreneur with a product that helps attorneys collect on their bills within hours instead of months.

Oct 2, 2018
The Kavanaugh Hearings Were Something Else, Weren’t They

Joe Patrice and Kathryn Rubino talk about the Kavanaugh hearings, recapping the morning testimony of Christine Blasey Ford and discuss the Kavanaugh opening statement in all its ripe-for-SNL-parody glory.

Sep 25, 2018
The Changing Legal Office

Haresh Bhungalia and David Carns talk about the legal technology landscape, Casepoint, and how each are changing the legal workflow.

Sep 18, 2018
Transparency In The Courts

Andrew Eisbrouch and Jesse Weber talk about the Guys Who Law podcast and the Law & Crime network and why broadcasting live courtroom telecasts can inform the public about the judicial system.

Sep 11, 2018
The Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearings

Joe and Elie review the week that was in the Kavanaugh confirmation fight.

Sep 4, 2018
Step Inside The Octagon — Law And MMA

Jason Cruz explains the lawsuit against Conor McGregor for throwing cans into the crowd.

Aug 28, 2018
Just How Smart Are You?

Joe and Elie play trivia to ask some bar questions that will benefit the DC Bar Pro Bono Project.

Aug 21, 2018
A Banner Week For Legal Gossip

Kathryn Rubino talks about Tiffany Trump's alleged law school woes and the life of Wachtell's George Conway as he navigates his days married to Kellyanne.

Aug 14, 2018
Mastering On-Campus Interviewing

Elie and Joe are joined today with Nick Alexiou to discuss the on-campus interviewing process.

Aug 8, 2018
Ohio State Football… A Quick Primer On Internal Investigations

Joe and Elie give a quick, high-level rundown on the internal investigation process and Ohio State's situation.

Jul 31, 2018
Above the Law Goes To The Movies

In today's episode, Joe gives his input on movies that have legal mistakes in them.

Jul 24, 2018
The Danger Of For-Profit Law Schools

Joe and Elie talk with guest Dr. Riaz Tejani to join their show as they talk about the dangers of for-profit Law Schools.

Jul 17, 2018
How The Media Miffed Brett Kavanaugh’s Nomination

Tune in as Joe and Elie discuss the Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett Kavanaugh and what changes they believe could happen.

Jul 10, 2018
I’m Off A Boat

Joe and Elie talk about Vinson & Elkins partner fleeing the scene after swimming away from a boat crash and their thoughts on the topic.

Jul 3, 2018
Anthony Kennedy Retires — What’s Next

Joe and Elie chat with David Lat about Justice Anthony Kennedy’s announced retirement.

Jun 28, 2018
The Dumbest Law School Exam Question Ever

In today's episode, Elie and Joe discuss some of the worst law school exam questions.

Jun 21, 2018
The 2018 Top 50 Law Schools

Brian Dalton join Elie and Joe to discuss Above the Law's annual ranking of the top law schools in America.

Jun 12, 2018
Baby Making Music

Ellen Trachman discusses artificial insemination, custody conundrums, and how twins can be citizens of different countries.

Jun 8, 2018
Emergency Podcast: Milbank Raises Salaries

Joe and Elie talk about Milbank raising associates salaries, what's happening and what this could mean for the industry at large.

May 23, 2018
Prenuptials, Post-nuptials, And No Judgements

Lisa Green talks about Trump family nuptials, and some common pitfalls in the asset protection game.

May 8, 2018
How To Decide On A Law School: We Answer Even More Questions

Elie and Joe answer listeners questions about law school and which one to choose and eliminate.

Apr 27, 2018
Where Should You Go To Law School?

Join Joe and Elie as they discuss about the different types of law school and narrow the list for prospective law students.

Apr 10, 2018
The Harrowing World Of Cybersecurity

Elie and Joe discuss with Joshua Lenon about global cybersecurity threats and what lawyers can do about them -- for both themselves and their clients.

Feb 23, 2018
ATL Set To Unveil New Ranking — What In-House Counsel Really Think About Law Firms

Above the Law Research Director Brian Dalton talks about ATL's law firm brand rankings based on an extensive survey of in-house counsel and what clients are looking for in a law firm.

Feb 2, 2018
Debt and Destruction

Jordan Weissman talks about Trump's plans to change the nature of student debt, how Elie finally paid off his educational debt, and concussions in the NFL.

Jan 19, 2018
Cryptocurrency At The Crossroads

Thornton McEnery talks about the cryptocurrency market, the role of big banks in the crypto landscape and what's on the horizon in the U.S. and abroad to regulate the market.

Dec 29, 2017
The Second Annual Thinking Like A Lawyer Awards Gala

On this star-studded evening, Joe Patrice and Elie Mystal honored the best — and by that they mean the worst — of the year in law.

Nov 30, 2017
From Biglaw To Producing Hit Shows — A Discussion with Jonathan Shapiro

Jonathan Shapiro talks about how a lawyer breaks into Hollywood and how penning lines for James Spader differs from practicing law.

Nov 27, 2017
2018 Legal Technology Predictions

Ransomware attacks, data disasters, robot lawyers... Jeff Ton talks about what's on the horizon for technology in 2018.

Oct 31, 2017
Is It Okay To Talk About Women In Law Now?

Elie and Joe talk with Above the Law's Kathryn Rubino about the challenges faced by women who go into Biglaw.

Oct 19, 2017
How To Explain The World To Non-Lawyers

Joe and Elie talk to Cristian Farias about producing a legal podcast non-lawyers listen to, and explaining the Supreme Court to a law audience.

Sep 19, 2017
Finding Your Career Starts Now, 1L

In this legal podcast about law school, Ray English discusses when law students should start finding a job.

Sep 6, 2017
Turning Your Law Degree Into Writing About College Football

How does one go from practicing law to writing about football? Hear from Ryan Nanni in this legal podcast.

Aug 16, 2017
Election Law Takes Center Stage

In this Above the Law podcast, Richard Hasen talks about the voting rights and redistricting battles being waged at the nation's highest courts.

Jul 31, 2017
How Hulk Hogan Ruined America

Brian Knappenberger discusses his documentary about the Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker case, Nobody Speak: Trials of the Free Press

Jul 19, 2017
Supreme Court Wrap-Up

In this Above the Law podcast, Tejinder Singh discusses the relatively sleepy Supreme Court Term.

Jun 30, 2017
Supreme Court Betting On New Jersey

This legal podcast discusses the Supreme Court's decision to challenge the the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act (PASPA).

Jun 15, 2017
Harvard’s Accepting The GRE — How Much Should You Freak Out?

This legal podcast looks at whether law schools should accept the GRE and the potential effect of this decision.

May 31, 2017
2017 Law School Rankings

Elie and Joe discuss the 2017 Above the Law law school rankings and the ATL methodology with special guest Brian Dalton, Above the Law's Director of Research.

May 25, 2017
Bar Exam Woes

As a new crop of law school graduates prepares for the bar exam, Joe and Elie talk to James Mullen of Law School HQ about the “last test you’ll ever take.” What is a “UBE” and is it a good development? Why are so many people struggling to pass the bar? And, really, what’s California’s...

Apr 28, 2017
The Police Have An Image Problem… And This Isn’t Helping

This legal podcast discusses whether using cops for promposals is counterproductive in improving people's view of police.

Apr 21, 2017
Let Us Tell You Where You Should Go To Law School

Joe and Elie open the mailbag and answer questions from listeners trying to decide where to go to law school.

Mar 24, 2017
Why Did You Go There?

Joe and Elie discuss how they chose their law schools, and how others should do what they say, not necessarily what they did.

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Elie Mystal

Elie Mystal is the Managing Editor of Above the Law Redline and the Editor-At-Large of Breaking Media. He’s appeared...

Joe Patrice

Joe Patrice is an Editor at Above the Law. For over a decade, he practiced as a litigator at...

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