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Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Joe Patrice, Kathryn Rubino and Chris Williams. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Jun 12, 2024

Clarence Thomas Turned Supreme Court Service Into An ATM Machine

Except ATM machines have limits.

Jun 5, 2024

Trump’s Lawyers Somehow Doing A Worse Job On TV Than In Court

The Trump conviction excuse tour is not going well for his attorneys.

May 29, 2024

Sam Alito’s In Distress Of His Own Making

An appeal to common sense is denied.

May 22, 2024

You’re A Grand Old Flag, You’re An Upside-Down Flag

Now, this is a story all about how Sam Alito's wife got flipped-turned upside down.

May 15, 2024

Trump Defense Team Playing Tiddlywinks At A Chess Match

Trump's attorneys seems as asleep at the switch as their client.

May 8, 2024

The Gag Order Pt. 10

Donald Trump, Drake, And James Ho... punchlines write themselves.

May 1, 2024

The First Law Of Whoever Smelt It, Dealt It

The New York courtroom where Donald Trump is on trial is apparently unpleasant. Is that the former president’s doing? The world may never know. Also, the fact that the racists are coming...

Apr 24, 2024

Alienating The Judge And Jury Seems Like A Bold Strategy For Trump

Let's see if it pays off as well as a billionaire covering up an affair.

Apr 17, 2024

A Big Week For Not Knowing The Law

From Elon Musk's deposition to law school protests, a lot of folks forgot to look up the actual law this week.

Apr 10, 2024

US News Rankings Continue Slide Into Bonkerstown

Haphazard ranking serves as a reminder that service hasn't quite found the right formula after law schools started withdrawing their data.

Apr 3, 2024

Supreme Court, Disney, And Trump — A Wild Week In Review

Breaking down the action-packed final week of March.

Mar 20, 2024

Did Joe Biden Get More Standing Ovations At The State Of The Union Or On Cold Call

Conservative justices can't stop telling on themselves when it comes to forum shopping.

Mar 13, 2024

Biglaw’s Parental Leave Backslide

Parental leave and a bumbling Supreme Court highlight the week.

Mar 6, 2024

Too Rich For Trump’s Blood

Bond... unaffordable cash bond.

Feb 28, 2024

Return To Office Policies Attempt To Catch Bees With Vinegar

What is it they say about just a spoonful of sugar?

Feb 21, 2024

Hard To Say Where Arrested Lawyer Went Wrong But Posting About Selling Drugs Probably Didn’t Help

This week's podcast!

Feb 14, 2024

It Pays To Be A Delusional Hack

Even-keeled professionalism may pay off over time, but being a mercurial lunatic always pays off now.

Feb 7, 2024

Habba Dabba Doo!

We're reaching peak Alina saturation.

Jan 31, 2024

I Screwed Up Basic Trial Procedure And All I Got Was This Lousy Swimsuit: The Alina Habba Story

Sometimes you can't actually fake being smart.

Jan 24, 2024

Alina Habba Goes Full Lionel Hutz In Latest Trump Trial

'The only rules are there are no rules' apparently doesn't fly in Judge Kaplan's courtroom.

Jan 17, 2024

Donald Trump’s Legal Team Decides Not To Ask Permission OR Forgiveness

Who needs a judge's approval to start ranting in court? Every other person ever, you say?

Jan 10, 2024

Roberts Explains That Artificial Intelligence Can’t Replace Judges Because How Would Billionaires Fly An AI To Luxury Resorts Anyway?

Maybe GPT-5 will want a free RV?

Jan 3, 2024

2023 Year In Review

The highs and mostly lows from the year that was.

Dec 20, 2023

The Unbearable Lightness Of Being Rudy’s Wallet

Defaming people doesn't pay well.

Dec 13, 2023

The Firm’s Doing Great… Also We’re Doing Layoffs.

There's never a good look for layoffs but there are definitely bad ones.

Dec 6, 2023

Breaking Down The Great Biglaw Raise Of 2023

Payable sometime in 2024... of course.

Nov 29, 2023

Paging Rule 11

Elon Musk files a facially ludicrous lawsuit and Trump argues that sexual assault doesn't count on airplanes.

Nov 22, 2023

Trump Complained About Us In His Mistrial Motion And All We Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt

We discuss Trump's failed motion, DeSantis racking up bills, and Biglaw whiners.

Nov 15, 2023

Do You Know Where Your Raises Are?

Big week in Biglaw news.

Nov 8, 2023

Some Clients Aren’t Worth The Risk For Biglaw… And, Yes, We Mean Donald Trump

Discussing the risks of representing Trump, Sam Bankman-Fried's goofy courtroom sketch, and Biglaw's open letter to law schools.

Nov 1, 2023

No More Room In This World For Two Ampersands

Stroock strikes out.

Oct 25, 2023

But, Maybe, Logic Games Were… Good?

LSAT's decision is not totally... illogical.

Oct 11, 2023

Dispatches From The End Of Analog Lawyering

A Clio Cloud Conference roundup.

Oct 4, 2023

One Day You’re Getting Cold Called And The Next Day You’re Shooting Up Cars

Also Donald Trump's lawyers continue making mistakes.

Sep 27, 2023

It Was Only A Matter Of Time Before We Had To Talk About This Again

This week we chat about the First Amendment, sexual harassment, and, yet again, Blackface in the legal community.

Sep 20, 2023

Fifth Circuit Gets Way More Originalist Than You Thought Possible

Plus a dramatic reading of the MyPillow deposition.

Sep 13, 2023

Biglaw Firm Offers Racy, Expensive Summer Event Before No-Offering Summers Anyway

In our latest chat, we discuss Biglaw strip club outings, Jeff Clark taking time away from his indictment to be an idiot online, and associates unhappy with a law firm's office tracker.

Sep 6, 2023

Amy Coney Barrett Wants Her Cake And To Enact Sweeping Constitutional Rewrites Too

Also, how to create a culture that welcomes Biglaw vacations.

Aug 30, 2023

The Law, The Law! It’s Chock Full Of Clowns. Dubious Lawsuits Up And Productivity’s Down!

A little Broadway for this week's title.

Aug 23, 2023

What In The World Is James Ho Thinking?

The Fifth Circuit judge made a bunch of headlines last week and we jump into all of them. Plus Texas’s use of water saws and Ron De Santis isn’t faring well in...

Aug 16, 2023

Well, The Jerk Store Called…

And they're running out of a bunch of lawyers.

Aug 9, 2023

Supreme Court’s Bitter Battle Over Ethics

Elena Kagan and Samuel Alito have… very different takes on judicial ethics and what Congress’s role is in all of it. Plus, Lindsey Graham has a change of heart about a federal...

Aug 2, 2023

So, Are We Just Ignoring The Supreme Court Now?

Alabama is just straight up defying the Supreme Court on election law… but when liberals propose the same thing all of a sudden it’s a crisis for the rule of law. I...

Jul 26, 2023

Gunners Gonna Gun — Even On Their Wedding Day

For real though, don’t mention your law school rank in your wedding vows. You may think it cute but literally no one else does. Clarence Thomas has been workin that lifetime tenure...

Jul 19, 2023

‘Supreme Court Ethics’ Achieves Oxymoron Status

Also more mandatory office policies and a brief primer on the Federal Circuit controversy.

Jul 12, 2023

Elon Musk Is Having A Very Litigious Week

Between threatening Facebook and suing Wachtell, the Chief Twit is pretty active. We also talk about the end of the Supreme Court Term and the struggles in bar prep.

Jun 28, 2023

Justice Alito Doth Protest Too Much

Talking about Supreme Court scandals, marijuana rights, and the top law schools out there.

Jun 21, 2023

This Is Why You Need To Pay Your Lawyers

Because someday you might face massive espionage charges... or something.

Jun 14, 2023

Donald Trump Got Indicted For Toilet Espionage But We Still Need To Talk About This Bear Cop

When you think about it, is a deputized bear really weirder than keeping classified documents in a bathroom with two chandeliers?

Jun 7, 2023

Free Speech Hypocrisy, Hot Bench Troubles, And ChatGPT Legal Research

Maybe the woman who called the cops on a Black birdwatcher should try using ChatGPT to make up some fake caselaw for her appeal because the real ones aren't helping.

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Joe Patrice is an Editor at Above the Law. For over a decade, he practiced as a...

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