Outside the Box: A Bigfoot Costume and a $50 Million Bet

This week, outside the box comes in two flavors: a lawyer in a Bigfoot costume, and a firm that killed its entire legacy media budget and never looked back 

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Angel Reyes runs a Texas PI firm spending $50 million a year on marketing. All of it digital, none of it billboards, none of it legacy media. He killed that spend back in 2018 and never looked back. His take: brand loyalty in personal injury is mostly a myth. Clients aren’t shopping for a name they trust, they’re picking whoever calls them back first. 

Elliot Johnson runs that $50 million budget day to day, and his job is making sure the data underneath it can actually be trusted, with clean integrations, reliable reporting, and no leaks. He and Angel walk through cost per kept case versus cost per acquired case, why last-click attribution is a comfortable lie, and what happens when you try to model a customer journey that’s more emotion than math.

Plus, two weeks out from the Summit: a thank-you to LHLM Summit video partner Bluphyre Media, whose “Bigfoot Lawyer” campaign is proof that thinking outside the box doesn’t have to mean spending outside your means. Sometimes it just means putting a lawyer in a Sasquatch costume. 

-Want to hear more from our guests on this week’s episode? Then come join us in Nashville, August 11-13th, where Elliot and the Bigfoot Lawyer crew will be taking the stage and networking with our audience. Get your ticket before it’s too late: lunchhourlegalmarketing.com/registration

-Thank you to our incredible sponsors: Juvo Leads, Lawmatic, CallRail, and ALPS

Chapters

00:00 Webbed Toes and Chili Cook-Off Wins

01:04 What We’re Covering This Week

01:54 Sasquatch Is Coming to Nashville: A Bluphyre Media Thank You

05:10 Meet Bluphyre Media: The Bigfoot Lawyer Campaign

09:55 ALPS Minute: One Job, Denise

11:31 What “Cost Per Case” Actually Means (Angel Reyes)

13:42 Data Hygiene Isn’t Optional (Elliot Johnson)

14:56 Why Angel Killed Offline Media in 2018

22:50 The Multi-Touch Attribution Problem

24:59 Setting Growth Goals With Actual Data

33:02 White Label Lead Gens and the One-Third Problem

39:54 Private Equity, MSOs, and What’s Coming for PI Firms

44:02 Final Thoughts and the Summit Send-Off

Special thanks to our sponsors CallRail, Thyme, and ALPS Insurance.