That was an exhausting week for legal happenings! Marjorie Taylor Greene flummoxed a poor judge during a hearing into her ability to satisfy the 14th Amendment’s proscription against seditionists in office. Justice Kagan had just about enough of Neil Gorsuch and let us all know. Alex Jones took his defamation woes to Bankruptcy Court — after transferring millions among different legal entities, of course. The Biden administration set its sights on undermining Miranda rights, Johnny Depp has a better grasp on hearsay than most law students, and we got a major arrest in the Dan Markel murder case.
And all that’s before we even get to one of the least qualified federal judges in American history deciding that there’s no statutory basis for the CDC to regulate proactive public health measures based on… some curious wordplay.
Special thanks to our sponsor, Posh Virtual Receptionists, LLC.
Joe Patrice: Hello.
Kathryn Rubino: Hello.
Joe Patrice: Welcome to another edition of Thinking Like A Lawyer. I’m just going to keep talking and pretend that didn’t happen.
Kathryn Rubino: Are you Joe Patrice?
Joe Patrice: I am. I am.
Kathryn Rubino: Are you Joe Patrice? Interesting.
Chris Williams: I thought I was Joe Patrice today. We had a whole (00:00:23).
Kathryn Rubino: Next time. Next time, you got to be Joe Patrice.
Joe Patrice: Yeah.
Kathryn Rubino: And you are the loser.
Joe Patrice: Wait. No. What? That’s not right.
Chris Williams: Well, hello, everyone. Thank you for — and above.
Joe Patrice: I’m —
Kathryn Rubino: That’s a pretty sold Joe Patrice impersonation, I have to be honest.
Chris Williams: Well, thank you.
Joe Patrice: I’m Joe Patrice from Above the Law and with me as always are Joe Patrice and Joe Patrice, who are — no, Kathryn Rubino and Chris Williams are here also to have us talk through some of the big legal stories of the week. You know, and have some fun along the way. I don’t know. Is that right?
Kathryn Rubino: Yeah. I mean that’s usually what we do here.
Chris Williams: I’ll allow it.
Joe Patrice: All right, okay. All right. So, we —
Kathryn Rubino: I know you might have forgotten this, other people are actively stealing your identity, but that is what we do.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. No, man, it’s fair. That’s fair. Well, let’s get this show started the way we usually do by having a little bit of small talk. Is anybody going to — you not going to start talking?
Kathryn Rubino: It’s good to know the soundboard ever goes down, Chris has got us — has back up for us.
Joe Patrice: That was pretty good. Yeah.
Chris Williams: You know, I’ve been here for a couple of years. I’ve gotten used to the sound.
Joe Patrice: So, what has everybody been?
Kathryn Rubino: Well, good. It was a massive holiday weekend, right? Three holidays, all stacked upon one another. I celebrated Easter this weekend with my family, so that was fun.
Chris Williams: Wait. Was it —
Kathryn Rubino: I had some chocolate bunnies.
Chris Williams: How often do we get all the Abrahamics overlapping?
Joe Patrice: Yeah. Not as often as you would think consider the calendars are –
Kathryn Rubino: Similar.
Joe Patrice: At least two of those holidays are supposed to be similar. Yeah. No, it’s — you get the Triforce.
Kathryn Rubino: I think maybe something with a lock —
Chris Williams: I think that’s just Christianity. That’s (00:02:17), right?
Joe Patrice: I mean — yeah, I guess that’s probably fair. I’ve never tried to use Legend of Zelda to work through major religious question before just now.
Chris Williams: Have you done it correctly?
Joe Patrice: I probably not.
Chris Williams: You know when I think of the Triforce of Power, I think of — some of you will think Ganondorf, but no, I think of — never mind. I’m about to get cancelled.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. Fair enough. All right. Well, so —
Kathryn Rubino: How was your weekend, Chris?
Joe Patrice: Yes.
Chris Williams: It was really good. And by that, I mean I stayed in the house doing a lot of nothing, so much nothing and it was refreshing, because time is blending in together. I don’t know if this was this weekend or last, but I rearrange my room, so I have — feels like more walking space around — it doesn’t hurt to do a little Tetris in real life, you know, just to change things up and something.
Joe Patrice: Right.
Chris Williams: It was nice.
Kathryn Rubino: It’s, you know, spring cleaning is like a real phenomenon for a reason, right? Like I think when the seasons change, there’s something very mentally beneficial to kind of reorganizing your space and, you know, good for you. I don’t do it. But, you know, I’ve heard rumors that it’s very beneficial to your mental health.
Chris Williams: Well, isn’t it always Christmas at you house with the five trees and all?
Kathryn Rubino: That’s correct. That’s correct. That really happens every year. I’m very excited about it still. Maybe we’ll add six this year.
Joe Patrice: Cool. Keep us in the loop on that I suppose.
Kathryn Rubino: How about you, Joe, how was your weekend?
Joe Patrice: You know, good. I’m kind of busy. I’m still trying to — from the event that we talked about last week that we were all at, I’m still paying bills for that. So, you know, that’s — I’m the treasurer, so I’m doing a lot of paperwork, but soon, I’ll be done in just doing Above the Law stuff.
Kathryn Rubino: There you go, focus.
Joe Patrice: No, I won’t. No, I won’t. I do so many things. Anyway, that’s a —
Kathryn Rubino: Do you want like a round of applause?
Joe Patrice: Do I?
Kathryn Rubino: I’m not sure.
Joe Patrice: Thanks, everybody.
Kathryn Rubino: I apologize to our listeners. That was obviously my fault.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. It was kind of a rookie mistake.
Kathryn Rubino: I did not intend for it to be a moment for Joe to use his soundboard, but here we are. Here we are.
Chris Williams: Well, you knew I was going to do it.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. I mean — yeah.
Kathryn Patrice: See, again, very good Joe Patrice impersonation.
Joe Patrice: All right. Well, I —
Kathryn Rubino: Do you feel insulted, Joe?
Joe Patrice: No.
Kathryn Rubino: Like, we’re coming for you.
Joe Patrice: No. No, no, no.
Kathryn Rubino: Maybe you should.
Joe Patrice: Great.
Chris Williams: I’ll do better about –also, speaking of impersonations and voice changes, rest in peace to Gilbert Gottfried.
Joe Patrice: Yeah.
Chris Williams: The big homie went to the Triforce in the sky. That man’s Aristocrats rendition still gets me. Because as a person — I like to think of myself as a comedian. One, I haven’t been booed yet, so I haven’t really been tried as a comedian. And secondly, I don’t know if I I’m really that funny. But when I see him, that’s where you’re like, “No, no.” Anyway, but when I see that recording, he’s been doing The Aristocrats for like that huge crowd, I’m pretty sure the context was he was bombing and he was like, “Fuck it. I have nothing to lose.” And then that’s just 10-minute — it goes on and it’s one of the few times that comedy where the word — like spit is the most disgusting thing. How do you — it was a master class in what the debate people called judge adaptation. It was phenomenal.
Joe Patrice: Did you ever see the movie about that?
Chris Williams: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. Very, very good where they just have —
Chris Williams: I don’t know if I saw his first and then the movie or the movie and then his. But as far as like top 10 for – no, like top 3 moments in comedy, it’s that for me. There’s this classic Richard Pryor joke which is one of the funniest slave jokes in my mind that doesn’t have a punch. Like its comedic purely at the formal level and (00:06:23) probably some –Dave Chappelle is definitely before he was a turf. The gay clan memorandum has a special place in my heart. But we missed a good one. And I commemorated his memory like making fun of him as much as I could because I feel like that’s how you give comedians a proper sound off, you know? Same thing as like George Carlin, don’t say he passed away though he has a whole bit about that, you know?
Joe Ptrice: Yeah. Well, yeah. Norm Mcdonald had a bit about that too.
Chris Williams: Norm, yeah, yeah. I think about him too.
Joe: Yeah. We lost a lot of comedians in a very short amount of time.
Kathryn Rubino: Bob Saget too. Also, has a bit of a staring in The Aristocrats movie.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. Yeah. Now, that we brought everybody down, we should probably talk about law, that’s –
Kathryn Rubino: And some with Biglaw. That’s a weird transition.
Joe Patrice: Speaking of — actually though, this is a story that we’re not prepared to talk about because it just happened, but I’ll put it part of small talk since we’re talking about comedians. Did anybody see that there’re several comedians just filed a lawsuit against Spotify over — Spotify’s been streaming comedy bits and not paying royalties at the rate that these folks think they’re supposed to be getting, I gather. I haven’t really dug into this case. It literally just came across my screen like five minutes before we started. But interesting —
Kathryn Rubino: On a gut level, I know who I’m rooting for the very least.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, the thing —
Chris Williams: Spotify. Spotify.
Kathryn Rubino: When you can root for of corporate overlord, definitely do that.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. All right. Well, we’ll look into that. We’ll probably have a story about that in the near future, now that it’s happened. But now —
Kathryn Rubino: Sounds like you’re now responsible for it, Joe.
Joe Patrice: I think — yeah, sure. Anyway, that’s the end of our small talk period, I think. We can move on.
Kathryn Rubino: Yeah, we can move on.
Joe Patrice: Yeah, who wants to go first?
Kathryn Rubino: Well, Kim Kardashian, we all know she’s been attempting to become a lawyer. She’s doing the non-traditional routes and she does not have an undergrad degree. She can’t really get into law school. So, she’s studying as an apprentice to be a to be a lawyer and the — in California. The first act, you know, we’re not barred in California. But folks in California know that they have to take the baby bar after your first year of law school. It’s a little different because she is doing the apprenticeship route, it’s a little bit longer. But how to take the baby bar, she failed it three times. Although one of them, in her defense, she took while she had COVID, and like an active fever, like bad COVID at the time. And normally after three times, you have to redo your coursework, but because it was during COVID, the California said that folks who took it during that time period, because everything — like the world was crazy, right? It’s not really the most conducive to studying. So, they gave folks an extra time, so she had a fourth time that she was able to take the test. She took it, passed it. Yay, whatever.
But she also revealed recently that one of her essay questions is actually used as the model because it was the top scoring essay for that particular topic and is now used as a model question in the future, which is very — as somebody who failed three times and then goes to be the model answer without being a Kardashian is pretty fucking impressive. And when you think about all the things that she’s doing, going on in her life, in addition to studying to be a lawyer, it’s — and I know a lot of people have very strong opinions on the Kardashians, but the truth is, I think that Kim has used her work in the legal field in a truly exemplary way. She obviously works very hard to get — to do criminal justice reform and get folks out of jail, who either been there for a very long time or wrongfully convicted or — she just has a bunch of that work and if we had more — listen, she doesn’t need the money, right?
She’s doing it for kind of the purest reasons to be a lawyer. And, you know, whatever you think about the new Kardashian show on Hulu, which I haven’t watched yet, you know, I think that that’s pretty admirable.
Joe Patrice: That’s fair. Look, there’s definitely — I have a lot of criticisms of the whole Kardashian phenomenon, but I have agreed with you on this particular point. I think there’s something to be said for caring about people in prison is not a popular charitable cause and for a celebrity, the bare minimum that they could ever do is nothing and the second barest minimum is choose some sort of a charity that no one will complain about.
Kathryn Rubino: Right. Just give money to it.
Joe Patrice: And just give money to notclubbingbabyseals.com or something like that, and that’s the most inoffensive thing you can do. And the fact that she has inserted her work into trying to help out this cause is very admirable. And, you know, I don’t know if she necessarily needs a law degree to keep doing it, but to the extent she wants to, that’s great.
Kathryn Rubino: It’s certainly helping. And there’s like SEO reports that folks run that says when she posts about doing well in law school, like searches for going to law school increased.
Joe Patrice: Well, that’s not great.
Kathryn Rubino: Well, it’s — or like one of the standards, whatever. And I do think that that’s really interesting just that it has this kind of impact. And, you know, she’s doing it on her own time and she’s still running a very, very lucrative business regardless of like her television show and appearances she has, you know, her skin shapewear line, she has about to be relaunched Kim Kardashian West. They’re changing the name, she taking West out of it, I think is what’s happening. She’s relaunching all of her beauty stuff. But she has a credibly successful line of fragrances, of makeups, shapewear and that’s all, in addition to the fact that she’s a television star and also going to law school. That’s a lot. That’s a lot on her plate. She has her four kids.
Joe Patrice: Not going to law school, but taking things.
Kathryn Rubino: She’s studying. She’s studying for —
Joe Patrice: Yes. Studying law.
Kathryn Rubino: Yeah. And, you know, she said in her post about getting selected as a model answer, part of what she wrote was that, right before the — weeks before the bar, she was doing 10, 15-hour days, like using the tutoring that she got, some people were on top of her all the time about it, and I think that she really knew that she had to pass this time. Otherwise, she would have lost all the coursework. And she did a thing that a lot of people struggle with and she did it quite well. It’s impressive.
Joe Patrice: Yeah.
Kathryn Rubino: It’s impressive. And she’s also, by the way, going through a divorce and raising four kids also.
Chris Williams: The one thing I’d like to add, at least right now, we’ll released this at a later date when we record it, not clubbing baby seals is not an actual website. So, hey, you know.
Joe Patrice: I have an opening for my new charitable work. Yeah, that’s fair. All right, so I will file the paperwork on that soon.
Chris Williams: That’s what I thought.
Joe Patrice: So, okay. Well, that seems —
Kathryn Rubino: Well, she’s got a lot of distractions going on in her life. She’s got a lot of things. And I think her ability to focus is noteworthy.
Joe Patrice: Okay. Well, let’s talk about somebody else who can focus on things. Do you want to tell us a little bit more about what’s going on with Amy Wax, Chris?
Chris Williams: Well, want is a strong word, but I’ll do it.
Joe Patrice: Right.
Chris Williams: Amy Wax is waxing again. I mean t’s like somebody’s like, “What’s new with OJ?” Like he’s talking about not killing his wife, like it’s the same record. I don’t get why we give them radio time. But, yeah, Amy did another racism. What I will say and I’ll acknowledge the inclusion of diverse points of view when they happen, she targeted more than blacks and Asian’s this time. Well, I guess a variant of Asians. She also threw Indians under the bus. But my thing is, I wish we were passed Amy Wax being the thing so we could talk about how we’re at a point in race relations where it is okay for somebody to say this shit on like national television and the host doesn’t get in trouble. Like, how is Tucker Carlson not in hot water for this?
Kathryn Rubino: Well, because he said worst.
Chris Williams: I mean, yes, but —
Kathryn Rubino: That’s why.
Chris Williams: I mean, yeah, but –
Joe Patrice: I’ll go with that.
Chris Williams: Arguably, yeah. But I remember — I’m going to be on that point where when I think about the flavors of racism, I can remember different vintages like, “I remember the racism of 2014.” Remember when — not Biden. The brown suit guy. Obama, him. I was like — remember when he got in trouble for just going to the same church that a guy spoke at? Not even agreeing, just going there, that was enough. But now, you can have candidates who’s just saying virally racist things like, Marjorie something.
Joe Patrice: Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Chris Williams: Yeah. I think she actually just outright calling for people to be killed. There was a — I think one of her co-workers I think she was saying she’ll be shot, three of them.
Joe Patrice: Well, not quite that, but, yes. It was more nuanced than that. But, yes, doing things that were putting colleagues in very real danger of violence, that is fair.
Chris Williams: It just happens. It just happens. You know, it’s cool. We care more about Will Smith slapping somebody on national TV, granted it’s the Oscars. But we care more about that, like that gets more hatred than tenured decorated professor professing violent racism on national television, and that’s just weird to me.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. So, for anybody who’s just dropped into this conversation, so Amy Wax is a law professor at Penn. This is as Chris has outlined, not new. We have — at this point, I think somewhere in the neighborhood of like 20, or 30 articles —
Kathryn Rubino: At least, I think you must’ve written 35.
Joe Patrice: I don’t think it’s that bad, but it is a lot. And this is a continuing issue. She exists at this point in her career merely to say these things and try to capture her 15 minutes of infamy, largely from people like Tucker who held a white nationalism conference that she spoke at several years ago. This is just what happens. And to Chris’ article about it, the thing that I thought about and, you know, you’ve previewed this, is with some of these stories, I find, and it’s not just Amy Wax, it’s a lot of stories like these though, where I always feel the journalistic quandary is to what extent —
Chris Williams: Do I share this?
Joe Patrice: Yeah. To what extent do I give energy to this? And part of you is like, “People need to know this is happening.” And another part of you is like, “They’re throwing a tantrum and why am I giving them fuel?”
Kathryn Rubino: I mean I think in the Amy Wax, in particular case, she is dragging a good law school’s name through the mud in a continuous basis. And I think that not only do we have an obligation to report it because it’s a bad thing that’s happening, but I think for particularly for folks who are thinking about going to law school contemplating which law schools to go to, I think that they should be aware of the people that they’re supporting when they’re making these sorts of decisions. And I think there are a lot of reprehensible people across a lot of different industries. But for us, we’re kind of focused on the legal industry. Any Wax is particularly bad. She is one of the most hateful law professors that I can think of that’s currently still working at a law school. And I think that that is something I will — we should continue to talk about for as long as she continues to be employed by a law school.
Chris Williams: I mean, yeah, but also like the amount of times Amy Wax has been on record being racist is competing with, if not, has passed the amount of One Piece episodes. And for those uninitiated, One Piece is the longest-running manga in like the history of humanity. And I think it’s over like a thousand episodes. That’s not hyperbole. A thousand is undercutting it. I feel like documenting Amy Wax’s racism is like saying, “News, Emeril Lagasse just said, ‘Bam,’ while cooking,” like it’s a thing. At what point does The Food Network just stop saying that?
Kathryn Rubino: You have to remember though that like the folks who are applying to law school, when Amy Wax started first spewing her terribleness were in high school, right? And they weren’t really necessary plugged into what law schools were doing what or what law professors were doing what, like there’s a constant new generation of about to be lawyers or want to be lawyers that are being — that are going through the cycle constantly. And to an extent that it’s still happening and still news, I think we report on it.
Joe Patrice: That’s an interesting take, this point of the generation constantly shifts over, which is something we lose sight of. Chris, you may not have lost sight of it yet because you’re relatively new at this job. But for those of us who’ve been at it for a number of years, you kind of get calcified and start thinking, “Hey, I wrote about this already.” And then you have to remind yourself, “I wrote about that six years ago.” Those people weren’t lost. The current audience was not in law school then. They’ve never heard this before. Frankly, some of the associates that read it when it first happened are now partners and still read but not, you know, they’re not sitting here all day because they’re busy now. So, you’ve got to kind of remind yourself, yeah.
Chris Williams: To that point and I maybe the anomaly here, when I was researching schools, I didn’t think, “What are the political leanings of this professor?” I looked at the prestige of this place. I looked at the scholarships. I looked at the locations. So, I’m not sure how much weight I’m really giving to the argument that we need to cover this so that the students coming in will be able to read it. Not that they don’t read it, but how many of them actually reached out.
Joe Patrice: Looked at the location and you still ended up in St. Louis?
Chris Williams: Looked at. Was part of decision. You are right. You are right.
Kathryn Rubino: But I do think people — I do think people do things like Google the name of their law school, and when their name of their law school has a current news story because one of the professors were racist, I think that does happen.
Joe Patrice: It’s deal.
Chris Williams: Fair.
Kathryn Rubino: Or if it appears — or they did some Google searching in the past, so now they’re being served in ad on there for you page or whatever about the racism, I think that that all plays into it.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. I mean it’s fair.
Chris Williams: Okay. I mean – sure. But also, I’m like I wonder how many times — I mean like when you’re also competing with the fact that they’re a law school, names like Robert E. Lee, you’re expecting a bit of racism, like how much of it do you really pick it. If I was a betting man, which I’m not, because I’m not paid enough to do that, I think more people will be like, “Why is their school also called Carrie?” Then they’re like, “Why is the professor racist?” But I don’t know. I have to ask any perspective people who got into Penn, who would not go to Penn because a professor is racist. They’re probably other racist professors there but they’re not as vocal. Also, it’s fucking Penn, right? You know?
Joe Patrice: Hey, Penn, top — what is it, five or six in the most recent rankings, you know? Well, anyway, I guess we should transition to completing our last story which — okay, you made a hand gesture at me, is there a reason? I was just going to transition.
Kathryn Rubino: Great.
Joe Patrice: I was thinking that what we should talk about is what’s going on with Martin — no. No. I was close. Iit was almost there, but the phone rang. But thankfully, I don’t have to answer it because we can work with our friends from Posh who are virtual receptionist who can answer it. All right. Now, everybody seems — you’re all giving me a look like you didn’t appreciate that transition.
Chris Williams: I’m sorry if my face is just phoning it in.
Joe Patrice: Fine. All right. Well, let’s hear –
Kathryn Rubino: Phoning it in.
Joe Patrice: Okay, that’s good. All right, let’s from our friends from Posh.
Female: As a lawyer, ever wished you could be in two places at once? You could take a call when you’re in court, capture a lead during a meeting, that’s where Posh comes in. We are live virtual receptionist who answer and transfer your calls so you never miss an opportunity, and the Posh app lets you control when your receptionist steps in. So, if you can’t answer, Posh can. And if you’ve got it, Posh is just a tap away. With Posh, you can save as much as 40% off your current service providers rates. Start your free trial today at posh.com.
Joe Patrice: All right. So, now, as we were saying before the phone rang, Martin Shkreli, what’s going on?
Kathryn Rubino: He’s out of money?
Chris Williams: Weird guess.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. So, Martin Shkreli, who came to fame for raising –
Chris Williams: Being a dick.
Joe Patrice: Yeah, being a pharmaceutical dick, has — a motion’s been filed by his lawyers from Duane Morris to no longer represent him.
Kathryn Rubino: Yeah. He doesn’t oppose the motion I believe because he’s out of money to pay them. They represented him in the antitrust case and that case is over, so they want out of dodge.
Joe Patrice: And he owes – again, it must really suck to really need something and then not be able to pay for it because the price. Yeah.
Kathryn Rubino: In fairness, Duane Morris did not raise the price and I believe that Martin Shkreli’s former companies, the limit on their insurance policy for paying for lawyers has run out, so money is gone. There are no assets that Martin Shkreli currently has that can be used to pay for lawyers, so they would like out, please. Please and thank you very much.
Chris Williams: What happened to his Wu-Tang album, the one he bought?
Kathryn Rubino: They confiscated it.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. They got that. On that note, a special congratulations to New York attorney general, Tish James, who managed to release this statement; The rich and powerful don’t get to play by their own set of rules. So, it seems that cash doesn’t rule everything around Mr. Shkreli. And I was like, “I see what you did there. I see what you did there.”
Kathryn Rubino: Yeah. I will give her full credit for that statement.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. I mean look, it — I don’t think the degree of difficulty wasn’t huge but I feel like for an elected official to make any kind of —
Kathryn Rubino: Sure. But I mean, I think the opposite is true, cash does rule everything around him, which is why he no longer has his attorneys.
Joe Patrice: Yeah.
Chris Williams: If only he had a hundred-dollar bills, y’all.
Kathryn Rubino: Y’all.
Joe Patrice: Y’all.
Kathryn Rubino: There you go. There you go.
Joe Patrice: Now, Shkreli has failed to protect his neck and there’s now — he can feel —
Kathryn Rubino: Okay. Okay.
Chris Williams: No. That was a begrudging that was good laugh. That was good.
Joe Patrice: So, I guess if the attorney general was listening, we’re prepared to –-
Chris Williams: Did you clutch pearls?
Joe Patrice: No, no. No, I was just like if the attorney general is listening, we’re prepared to write jokes for you all I guess is what we’re saying.
Kathryn Rubino: You want some non-offensive, right up the gut kind of —
Chris Williams: Especially if you like them raw. ODB, no? ODB — no, okay.
Kathryn Rubino: There you go. There you go.
Joe Patrice: Okay, everybody. So, that —
Kathryn Rubino: That all happened.
Joe Patrice: Yes. Everybody else –
Kathryn Rubino: That all happened.
Joe Patrice: Anybody else have anything else to add to the day?
Kathryn Rubino: I will continue our plugs for the law review. It’s the annual Above the Law contest for law students.
When you do skits and songs and whatnot, put them on video, send them in. You can find all the details about how to submit it on the ATL main page, and we’re definitely looking forward to another robust year. I think after last couple of more modest offerings because of the COVID world, hopefully, we’re all back to mostly normal and we’re going to have — and these things will be back and better than ever.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. No, that’s a great point. Even if you aren’t ready to submit, by all means, just drop us a line that you’re planning to so that we know you’re out there and we can help. If there’s any way we can help get you to the point where you can submit which I don’t know how much help we have, but to the extent we can assist technically or whatever, we’ll try. Yeah. Especially like where to post it and stuff like that, we could use our channel and things if necessary. So, with all that said, I feel like we’ve come to the end of another show, you know?
Kathryn Rubino: Once again, yes, we are finished with our job.
Joe Patrice: I mean, yeah.
Kathryn Rubino: This is part of it.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. So, with —
Kathryn Rubino: Still a lot more stuff to write.
Joe Patrice: Right. With that said, we will move on. You should be subscribed to this show if you aren’t already. If you’re listening to this as a one off, go ahead and subscribe, that way you can get new shows when they come out. You’ll never miss one. You should give it review, stars are great, but writing something, some words helps more because algorithms think that means you care enough to engage and that’s important. You should be reading Above the Law that way you see these stories before they even reach the podcast format. I guess with the exception of the comedians one since that one we haven’t written yet, but we’ll get there.
Anyway, you can check out other shows. Kathryn is the host of the JABO. I’m a panelist on the Legaltech Week journalist roundtable. Legaltech happy hour, that’s what I’m calling it personally.
Kathryn Rubino: There you go.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. That’s what I’ve always thought.
Kathryn Rubino: It’s catchier.
Joe Patrice: Yeah. Anyway, you should check that out. Check out some other shows from the Legal Talk Network. Also, you should follow us on social media. The blog is @atlblog. I’m at @JosephPatrice. She’s @Kathryn1, the numeral one. He’s @rightsforrent. And that means — is that everything? What else do we got?
Kathryn Rubino: I think so.
Joe Patrice: Thanks to Posh for sponsoring. And with all of that, I think we’re done.
Kathryn Rubino: Peace.
Chris Williams: Have a good one.