Dennis Kennedy is an award-winning leader in applying the Internet and technology to law practice. A published...
Tom Mighell has been at the front lines of technology development since joining Cowles & Thompson, P.C....
Published: | June 14, 2024 |
Podcast: | Kennedy-Mighell Report |
Category: | Legal Technology , Practice Management |
Blogs were a colorful, dynamic part of the internet in their heyday, but how do they fit into our world today? Dennis and Tom take a hard look at the latest trends in legal blogs and whether this form of social media/information sharing is still successfully maintaining its corner of internetland. They discuss their own blogging habits, or lack thereof, and offer their thoughts on common trends in modern blogging.
Later, ChatGPT asks the guys what the biggest issues in legal tech are today, and they both agree that mediocre tech education and training are the frontrunners. Lawyers need to keep up with technology trends, and robust learning is essential.
As always, stay tuned for the parting shots, that one tip, website, or observation that you can use the second the podcast ends.
Have a technology question for Dennis and Tom? Call their Tech Question Hotline at 720-441-6820 for the answers to your most burning tech questions.
Show Notes – Kennedy-Mighell Report #367
A Segment: The Current State of Legal Blogging
B Segment: ChatGPT asks us a question
Parting Shots:
Announcer:
Web 2.0 innovation collaboration software, metadata got the world turning as fast as it can hear how technology can help legally speaking with two of the top legal technology experts, authors and lawyers, Dennis, Kennedy, and Tom Mighell. Welcome to the Kennedy Mighell report here on the Legal Talk Network
Dennis Kennedy:
And welcome to episode 367 of the Kennedy Mighell Report. I’m Dennis Kennedy in Ann Arbor,
Tom Mighell:
And I’m Tom Mighell in Dallas.
Dennis Kennedy:
In our last episode, we looked into Apple’s new iPad announcements and pondered the role of the iPad in the legal tech stack. We highly recommend the episode. If you were thinking about getting a new iPad this year, our recommendations might actually surprise you. In this episode, Tom really wanted to look at the current state of legal blogging. We thought that our combined 40 plus years of blogging might give us a good vantage point to assess the current state of blogging in the legal industry. Tom, what’s all on our agenda for this episode?
Tom Mighell:
Well, Dennis, in this edition of the Kennedy Mall report, we will indeed be looking at the present and future of legal blogging with some insights and experience from the past and more on why I wanted to talk about this topic. In the second segment, we’ll be having our good friend chat, GPT, ask us a question it has generated from our audience’s point of view. And as usual, we’ll finish up with our parting shots, that one tip website or observation that you can start to use the second that this podcast is over. But first up, we wanted to do something we haven’t done in a while, and maybe that’s more, I wanted to do something that we haven’t done in a while and that’s talk about blogs and the current state of legal blogging, what that is. I was listening to a podcast with our good friend, Kevin O’Keefe from Lex Blog about his thoughts on legal blogging. And it occurred to me that we just haven’t talked about this subject in a hot minute. And so I have my thoughts, Dennis, but I’m going to start out with you, Dennis, where are you on blogging these days?
Dennis Kennedy:
I just went past year 21 on my blog and I actually posted a blog post this morning. So not that I’m posting a lot, but I’m trying to up the level of it, but I don’t see as much about legal blogging these days other than what Kevin O’Keefe is doing at Lex Block, which is quite a lot and quite interesting. And full disclosure, that’s where my blog is at. So I did some checking and I realize I don’t really look at that many legal blogs these days, and there are a couple reasons for it that I will touch on, but I’m more curious about you and what got you interested in this topic right now. I mean, after all, it doesn’t have anything to do with ai.
Tom Mighell:
I know it doesn’t, does it? I guess full disclosure on my part, my blog is also part of the Lex Blog Network and we love everything that’s going on over there. And you raise the point that you may not follow many legal blogs these days. I don’t follow that many of these days, and when I do see them probably the same as you. We see them in Feedly in our feed reader, and not that we’re seeing things, but when I saw you kind of asked that question in the script as we were getting ready for this, it made me ask the question, how do we used to find out about blocks? When did we do that? How do we find out? I mean, we were using Google Reader, we were using feed readers before we found out through other blogs. We found out through Twitter, we found out through social media when someone would say, Hey, here’s a new blog you need to read.
And I would argue that the discoverability of blogs, law blogs are otherwise, I’m not just making it just limiting it to legal blogs. I would argue that the discovery of legal blogs and blogging in general is not as good as it used to be. Kevin has a great directory, a great network, and we’ll put a link to it in the show notes at Lex blog, but I’d love to know how visible it is. I’d love to know how many people go there to learn about blogs and what they have that are there. You can’t really, you see the directory, there’s no real way to know what’s new and what new blogs, lawyers may have started. So I would say it’s hard to learn about law blogs these days. I mean, there’s not a good way to learn about what’s new out there and maybe, and I hate to make this claim or this prediction or this assumption, maybe there aren’t a lot of new law blogs at all, and maybe that’s why we don’t learn about ’em these days. Well,
Dennis Kennedy:
I go back to the early days, Tom, and this will date us, but I mean basically at the beginning I felt, and you probably did too, we knew all the legal blogs. I mean, we knew when there was new ones, we knew all the bloggers. There weren’t that many. And you’re right, there were ways to discover blogs. So Dave Weiner, sort of the inventor of blogging and RSS and podcasting has been talking lately about going back to the idea of blog roles, which was really the way that you found out about other blogs because on your blog, there’s a thing typically in the right column where you’d say, here are the other blogs that I follow. And that was a great way to find other blogs. I mean, you still had that sort of newness issue of how do you find new things, but you at least said some of you did a blog role, at least did some curation of blogs that were really interesting to them.
And that was one way of finding. And then I think that before we got into this sort of hyper SEOs search world, search engine world where everything is so commercialized and it actually is really hard to find things that you want to find or to discover things, it became difficult. And back in the earlier days, you still were a little bit in the era of Yahoo and these other directories where you could go to one place and find a lot of things. So I think you’re right, Tom, it is that discoverability. And then I have another couple of ideas, but I want you get your thoughts about what Dave Weiner’s been saying about the return of blog roll.
Tom Mighell:
I mean, where are the blog rules that are returning? Where would we see them on the blogs?
Dennis Kennedy:
Yeah, that’s what Dave Weiner’s doing in advocating that we go back to putting
Tom Mighell:
Blog rules and we go back and actually look at someone’s website.
Dennis Kennedy:
And I think that is a flaw. And as you say it, I see the flaw because I don’t go to the blog. I need a blog role to be something else that’s surfaced in an RSV or something.
Tom Mighell:
Now see if someone did, and we’re going to talk about in a little bit the notion of what are the options? If we’re not blogging, what should we be doing? But if I could subscribe to a Substack newsletter called the blog roll, I might even pay money for that because someone would be telling me about all the new blogs that were out there. If there was a way to get that to me rather than me have to go find it. I think about that very seriously.
Dennis Kennedy:
And I think this is one of these cases where you want the human curation. I was thinking like, oh, maybe an AI could do that. But then I think about a bing copilot or any AI connected to the internet and pulling me a list of best law blogs and I’m like, oh my God, what a mess. That would be all but useless to me. So as the internet gets messy, I think we have that sort of cycle of where we say, oh, let’s go out and just search and find things. And then when search gets messy or we can’t find things that we want more human curation, I think we’re sort of, my sense is maybe moving back toward a little bit of human curation with this sort of perhaps a false so that maybe AI will help us on that.
Tom Mighell:
You might believe that I’m still not there yet. I don’t think that’s possible. And we’ll talk in a little bit. I want to save until we get to the second segment, what I really am thinking about, for me anyway, what the future looks like. And I think human curation is hard. It’s the same reason why I think it’s hard to do. I am skeptical going to, I think that if we could use AI in such a way to enhance blog discoverability in some way, I’d be interested in that. That’d be intriguing to me. But I feel like human creation is going backwards in time and I’m skeptical.
Dennis Kennedy:
Well, and a human curation is many projects that people have. We’ve been in committee meetings where people have had these ideas of like, oh, we should do the consumer reports of legal software, and they look at people like you and me say, and by we mean you, Dennis and Tom, you should do that and you should do that for free in your spare time so we can benefit from that. And so I think that human creation thing is really difficult, especially where we’re not in that early day of the internet where the stuff is just cool. And then you have the AI companies, other people taking your work anyway, and other people are making more money off of what you curate than you do, and it just becomes problematic in a lot of ways. But I wanted to step past the curation notion, just look at blogging itself and maybe that’s where things have started to change.
So I always go back to Dave Weiner’s original definition of a blog, which he just simply called the unedited voice of a person. And I think that the early blogs that I loved and the ones that I still follow definitely have the voice of a person. I think in legal, you have law firm blogs, you have department blogs, you have blogs by committees, blogs by PR departments. And when I see new legal blogs, they never feel like it’s an unaided voice of a person. And where I find that unaided voice of person that I really want to connect with and hear what they have to say, that’s more in social media, it’s in podcasts, it’s TikTok, it’s in other things like that. So I think that voice piece as it became more corporate, more committee, more firm and heavily edited that also made blogs themselves less attractive when we lost the energy of the early days.
Tom Mighell:
Nope, I agree. So I’ve done some, I guess I’ll call it purely and highly unscientific research preparing for this podcast because I wanted to get an idea back when in the early days of my blog in the two thousands, I became obsessed with all things blog related, and that’s B-L-A-W-G, for those of you who are not part of the og, that’s B-L-A-W-G as in law blogs, I was obsessed with it and I was obsessed with tracking every new blog. I had it at my blog, I had a blog of the day, and I would feature a different law blog all the time. And frankly, I take some credit for getting people’s blogs noticed. It was kind of my version of the blog role is that I helped out with that. And what I did was being the very anal retentive person that I was, I kept a spreadsheet, I kept an entire blog list of all the blogs probably between around 2002 up until 2011, maybe 2012, and my list got up to over 4,000 law blogs.
I found over 4,000 during that period of time. And not only was I keeping track of them or noting them down just their existence, I would also go back to see if they were active and I would define active as something within the last certain number of months. And so I was able to say, here are the percentage of law blogs that are still active, that are inactive, that are totally gone, those types of things. So I decided, I’m going to go back, I’m going to take a sample of those to my list. So I did a sample of a hundred blogs from my blog list and what was amazing to me, and I’ve got three sets of, well, really three sets of research statistics, looking at my blog list of the a hundred that I sampled, only 25, were still active, 25% versus 75% not active.
And I am defining active as having blogged at all in 2024, and that’s very generous I think is to say if they blog in 2023, they are not active. Now you could quibble with me on that, but that’s the criteria that I’m making. 25 out of a hundred blogs not active. Now, part of the reason for that, and when I started looking at it was that most of the blog platforms of these blogs were Blogspot and Typepad and those platforms don’t exist anymore. Now, if they had moved to other more modern platforms, they didn’t chose not to take their domain name with them. It was probably a blog spot.com or typepad.com, but still dead blog. So I thought I’m going to go take a look at the Lex blog directory, the Lex blog network that Kevin has created lots of different blogs and definitely more current.
So I did two tests. I did one I wanted to the legal technology category or it’s just called technology on the directory. I did another a hundred blogs there and there, 40% active, 60% inactive, so better than my list that I had. But I thought maybe substantive law blogs are more active than technology blogs. Maybe if you are talking about substantive legal issues, that’s working. It’s like publishing law journal and legal news articles. So I took a sampling from the labor and employment category in that Lex Blog network out of a hundred better here, 60% active, 40% inactive, but still 60% is not a huge number of what I would want to see. What I found that was interesting was that the majority of the active blogs were being by big law firms. And so does this mean that the blogs that are more likely to keep running and going right now are the ones that actually have other people running it? In this case, the firm’s marketing department rather than the individual lawyer or the group of lawyers between lawyers, our very first effort at being bloggers a while back, is it more because there’s someone else running it and that the lawyers don’t have to do anything but contribute content? I mean, that’s kind of again, highly unscientific study that I just did, but I’m going to come away with that opinion. Big law firms do blogging. There are few and far between individuals who are doing law blogging, prove me wrong.
Dennis Kennedy:
I did not do any research, and it just rings true for me that I think that blogging is something that gets pitched through marketing departments. If you have the people in the marketing department pushing on people for content or writing the content, then you have that consistency. And that goes back to my notion of, but in those blogs, I feel I’m reading the edited voice of a committee as opposed to an unedited voice of a person. And so it just is really homogenous and there’s nothing that makes me want to come back to that. Whereas in the early days, you wanted to come back and you wanted peoples to see what people were writing. And it’s kind of funny that you say something is active if it posted in 2024, it seemed like in the early years it was like people were feeling like is once a week enough to call
Tom Mighell:
Something active? I know two or three times a week is what active is, right? I was doing blog of the day every single day just to feel active. I agree.
Dennis Kennedy:
I love that Blo day thing too because it is one of the great things about blogging is that people would do, and firms I think did this especially, they would do some press release saying that they had been named the blog of the day by you and you’re just like one guy with a blog doing this blog,
Tom Mighell:
The power of blogging. It was there.
Dennis Kennedy:
And I think the other thing about keeping things going is that of all the different approaches that you can put content out on the internet, I think that blogs are actually one of the hardest ones unless you are fundamentally a writer, and I think they require a sophisticated analysis of the audience, your topic, your content. They require consistency. You have to have a purpose and know what that is. I saw somebody the other day, Tom Post on LinkedIn that they were leaving their job and thought they would take some time off between jobs and start a or two. And I was just like, we’ll see how that goes. You didn’t do the list, but there was sort of this informal list that the law bloggers had of people who started a blog and it only ever had one post. It only
Tom Mighell:
Had a post, say a post, and then I’m done.
Well, I’m going to take the position, and again, I’m going to talk about it a little bit later. I think that it’s not just about writing because I think that given the room and the space, lawyers will write things, lawyers always have something to say. It’s very hard not to get them going on something. And that’s why I think that some of these big firm blogs are still going is because they can get a lawyer to go write something. I would argue that although blog software is really not that difficult to use, it’s still harder to use than Twitter or LinkedIn or as we’ll talk about in the second segment, substack, it’s harder to get around how to format, how to put an image into a blog post, how to do certain things the right way. I would say it’s easier than ever before, but I would think that there are some lawyers out there who that is still a technological step they’re not willing to take.
Dennis Kennedy:
Yeah, I mean in the post I did this morning, I put an image in there and it automatically put the image into the post twice, which is the weirdest default ever. I can’t even imagine why, because it was, and to put it in line in the post where I wanted was really hard, and then it made it to feature image. So the image was at the top of the post and within the post, and I had to figure out how to delete it. And so I’m somebody who’s been doing this for a long time and still simple things like that are pretty difficult. But I don’t know, Tom, I sort of have a question about not just legal, but blogs in general. And again, I sort of abstract away from blogs because I consume them by RSS feeds, but I’m not really sure I understand where blogs fit into our internet world these days. And maybe before we take the break, I could get your 2 cents on that.
Tom Mighell:
Yeah, I would say, I’m going to say first the legal industry. Here’s what I’m worried about. And Kevin, if you’re listening to this podcast, send me an email and let me know what you’re finding out there. I worry. Here’s my fear. My fear is do we already hit the crest of law blog adoption? Have we already crested that? It’s no longer a thing. I don’t want that to be the case, but I worry that it might be when we talk about blogs in just like You, I see so few these days, I mostly see news sites. My, again, I will use the word unscientific so many times in this recording is that I think people are more comfortable with short form online engagement, X and LinkedIn or other social media tools. But to me that doesn’t make sense because just like other industries and other groups are writing long form content online, lawyers need a place to do that too. Blogs seem to make sense for that purpose, but let’s save whether that’s the case for our next part of the segment, which we will get to in a minute. But before we do that, we’re going to take a quick break for a message from our sponsors
Dennis Kennedy:
And we are back. Tom, simple question, I guess for both of us. What are each of us planning to do about blogging going forward?
Tom Mighell:
So I hadn’t really thought about this until you put the question into our preparation notes for the podcast. I really hadn’t thought about it. And as I started to think about it, and I have, gosh, just beaten this to death talking about it or getting my way around it, and that is I’m really leaning. I really want want to start publishing again and I really want to publish my blog. I went back, I used my blog as one of the sites that I measured, and by that definition, I’m woefully inactive because my last blog post was four years ago right around Covid starting, which I thought that would be my good covid project. I have every good intention of restarting the blog. And I do think despite my survey findings, I think a blog is still a good way to publish longer form content. My problem is time, which is probably the same problem that a lot of former law bloggers a lot that they might’ve had.
I think I mentioned this on a prior podcast. I’ve experimented with having chat GPT help write blog post drafts for me, and I was reasonably pleased with the initial results. I just never have gotten further with that. But here’s what I think. I think that in terms of discoverability these days in terms of being able to be found by other people, and not just lawyers but others, people who might still be interested in what you have to say, I am really intrigued by the substack idea. It is so much easier to put something up there and to publish to lots and where it goes directly to the mailbox. I never thought I would say publish to RSS. It’s the feed the news that comes to you. It’s all that stuff that we talk about. I’d rather be in someone’s inbox these days with a Substack newsletter than a blog post. That’s seriously where I’m starting to think. I’m starting to think, is it better to do that than to have a blog? And I just don’t know where I come out on that. I think that right now that the Substack model tends to be more discoverable than blogs, so I’m intrigued by it. So I have to tell you, I’m torn right now. I kind of like, it feels like substack and that model is the future. But I don’t know. I’m still making up my mind. What about you, Dennis?
Dennis Kennedy:
I have been thinking about this and I guess that it’s ultimately becomes down to, it’s really hard to imagine myself ever shutting off my blog, but it is easy to imagine myself using it as a more consistent outlet than I have recently. And I feel that I need to figure out what if my writing it’s the right medium for. And so let me talk a little bit about that. So I sort of feel that a lot of the things that I would’ve put into my blog in the past are now come into this podcast which I now consider my primary outlet on legal tech and other things. And a lot of it’s not surprisingly going into my teaching and that’s siphoned off a lot of material in the past would’ve gone into the blog. I also think that there is this tricky thing and you mentioned you can mention a whole bunch of other things that are going on in the news and in the early days of bragging, people were willing to take on all kinds of topics and put your opinion out there in thoughtful ways.
Now it’s a lot easier to just put your opinion out in unthoughtful ways on social media, but I think that can be tricky when you’re in times where there’s a lot of controversy and are important things happening where you say, wow, I will go back sometime of future. I’ll look back and during the time when some amazing historical thing was happening, I was blogging about word shortcuts or something like that. And so when you have a bunch of stuff going on in the world, you kind of say like, oh, does my blog, do I need to say something about that or not? So that can be tricky. And then I think the other thing is that I do see is that often my blog posts appear in some form or another elsewhere, either in terms of the topic or somebody actually taking the content. And that’s really starting to irritate me a lot.
And that does drive you a bit to say maybe I shouldn’t be as trusting of the open internet because people are scraping it, the AI companies are using it in their train models, all these other things. Maybe that subscription email newsletter or a Mighty Networks community behind a paywall might be a better way to do blogging. And I also think it’s hard for a blog what you put on a blog to get through. So if I do a blog post, I tweet about it, I put it on LinkedIn that I posted something, and that’s the way I think I get traffic and it’s way different than it was in the old days.
Tom Mighell:
Well, let’s talk about AI and blogging a little bit. I had mentioned before that I had been experimenting with feeding chat GPT, some stories that I’d read and having it summarize them or write a blog post that talks about those. And they were all consumer technology related stories and it did a pretty good job. But if we start thinking about Dave Weiner’s definition of the voice of a person, we start to get away from that even if we just treat the chat GPT version as a draft or a work in progress. And so I don’t know, I don’t know how you feel about AI being involved in the degeneration of content. I know that Kevin’s experimenting with generative AI in the Lex blog platform to help write, and I think it is very intriguing, but where do you stand on all this?
Dennis Kennedy:
I stand in the middle on this, so I’m doing a little experimenting, but it’s in part with saying, can I grab some ideas and create a content calendar? And if I’m creating that content calendar, can I rough out some ideas? And I’ve created prompts that actually do approximate my writing style. So there are ways to do that. I’ve found that is in all things with ai, that I’m just too much of a writer to let what the AI produces go. If I see anything else that chat GPD generates that says delve deeper, I’m just going to scream. So they’re just common things that it uses that I don’t like. So having said that, I am concerned that the more we let AI generate content, that AI generated content is going to be used to train LLMs, which are going to make it more like AI generated content and so on and so on.
And so we’ll be, the results we’re going to be getting will be even more homogenous or homogenized. So I’m intrigued by what you could do with well prompted and tuned AI content in a blog, especially if you’re doing news updates. I don’t think it would be as engaging as individual voices, but it would be more consistent and I think it would work really well for updates and summary posts. And that’s something I’m going to be experimenting with the if this then that tool, not for blog posts, but for some other things, as I said for individual posts, I can prompt the creation of a first draft blog post in my own voice. But I do sort of struggle with this and think in terms of I really want to take a fresh look at blogging and I want to think where the blog actually fits in my whole content portfolio, which I think Tom always gets us back to your notion of hub and spoke
Tom Mighell:
Well. And that’s what sort of depresses me about all of this is that. And for those of you who aren’t aware, I’ve always compared the blog to the hub of your communication network, how you get information out and that social media tools, LinkedIn and X and whatever you happen to be using are the spokes. They’re the ways that you draw traffic back to your blog. And I’ve always been a firm believer in that. But I will have to say that if blogs are becoming less relevant or people aren’t following them, I wonder if my notion is aging somewhat. I don’t want it to be true and I would still like to believe that that’s not the case. But I guess we’re going to have to take a look at this in a little while and see how far things go. So let’s agree to maybe revisit this a few podcasts down the road. Alright, we are done. We want to move on to our second segment. But before we do that, we need to take a quick break for some more messages from our sponsors. And now let’s get back to the Kennedy Mighell report. I’m Tom Mighell and
Dennis Kennedy:
I’m Dennis Kennedy. We want to remind you to share the podcast with a friend or two that helps us out in our new B segment, which is now starting to show some edge. We are prompting chat GT four in a sophisticated way to stand in for our audience and ask a question that our audience might want us to answer for them that would make us think and maybe push us a bit. Tom has indicated that my prompting was getting just a little too specific for his test, so I went with a much more general prompt and got the following question. We’ll see what Tom thinks. So here’s the question. What do you consider the most difficult issue or problem in legal tech today? And Tom, before I let you criticize the question, I’m going to go ahead and start to answer that. Go
Tom Mighell:
For it. So
Dennis Kennedy:
My big one these days and it’s head and shoulders above everything else is in the legal tech world and especially in the AI space, is how do we determine what experts and advice you can trust and rely upon? And that was the blog post I wrote today and I sort of had this three Hs approach, which is do your homework, spend time, hands-on working with things. And I was referring mainly to AI and to have some humility about what is that and your approach to learning. But it’s really tough because of tons of people call themselves experts. I’ve seen webinars and stuff where people are talking about themselves being geniuses or gurus or wizards. And the whole notion that in AI people talk about best practices and other things at a time when we’re still learning how this stuff works and what it works best for is really difficult. So I think that that is the big issue for me. And other than using your critical skills in the best way possible, I don’t know that I have any answer, I just think it’s truly a difficult problem.
Tom Mighell:
Well, I’m glad you went first because you kind of went straight to the direction that I was going. And I still think that the biggest issue in legal tech today is training and education. And so it’s not just about understanding what experts and advice you can trust and rely on because a lot of those times you’re just getting advice, you’re not getting education, you’re not being told how to do it. The experts that you mentioned are going to give advice, they’re going to provide some level of information, but they’re not going to train you. How do lawyers really know how to use the technology tools they need to use? We have Debbie Foster on this podcast twice a year to talk about things and every time she still brings up that lawyers dunno how to create a table of authorities and word or something similar to that, that there is still some of the basics.
And this feels like a really old dead horse that I’m beating here. But legal technology doesn’t get used when lawyers don’t know how to use it or when it’s being used wrong. I will tell you right now at my company, which is not a legal technology company, we are implementing new software and the managers that be want to just say Go use it without any training and it is proceeding in a terrible way, I am going to insert myself in the process. But so far I have not done that when I was in high school. And the one class that just totally evaded my knowledge and understanding was calculus in my senior year. And I went to the teacher and said, I don’t understand how to do this. And her response to me was, don’t try to understand it, just do it. Which to people who know calculus, it made perfect sense but it didn’t make sense to me. And that’s how I feel sometimes that lawyers are being told to just go and do it. Go use the tools and I think that’s wrong. I don’t think there’s enough good education out there. I don’t lawyers, I don’t think lawyers know how to find the education and I think that’s potentially very harmful effect on legal technology.
Dennis Kennedy:
So now it’s time for parting shots at One Tip website or observation you can use the second this podcast ends. Tom, take it
Tom Mighell:
Away. So my parting shot falls under the heading of useful or creepy or both. So there’s a tool out there called True Caller. True Caller is a tool that already exists. You can download it, it can answer calls on your behalf. And now Microsoft is partnering with True Caller to bring your personal voice to its AI assistant so you will be able to record your voice. True caller will adopt your voice as the voice of its AI chatbot and it will be able to have a conversation with whoever calls you in your voice talking as you take that, as you will. I’m nervous for it, but I’m also really intrigued by it at the exact same time. So I don’t know when that’s coming out, but it kind of makes me interested in trying the tool out. Dennis, the
Dennis Kennedy:
Pros and cons of Deep Fix, we are going to have to think them all through. So I had this sort of unusual experience that I wanted to share and it it’s sort of a simple pleasure and one of these things that you neglect from time to time. So I was using an old backpack I have used for a long time. I noticed my shoulder was bothering, so I have a decent walk when I go to campus. And so at the end of the semester I was like, that backpack has stood me well, but it could be the cause of my shoulder pain and it’s looking a little frayed and maybe I should do this by myself, a new one. And so I looked in and there are some really great backpacks now that are really built to kind of help you and they’re used for both hiking and commuting. And so I found this Osprey and I have another Osprey bag small bag that I used and I just, so I have this Osprey Comet laptop backpack that I just bought and I’m going to be using it next year for school and I’m really excited about it. It’s just like an unexpected pleasure. And if you have this old bag that you’re saying like, oh, I like it, but why would I spend something new? I think about buying something new and significant gives you a little bit of unexpected pleasure.
Tom Mighell:
I always find that getting a new backpack gives me pleasure and it’s not unexpected, which is why I have way too many backpacks. Alright, so that wraps it up to this edition of the Kennedy Mighell report. Thanks for joining us on the podcast. You can find show notes for this episode on the Legal Talk Networks page for our show. If you like what you hear, please subscribe to our podcast in iTunes on the Legal Talk Network site where you can find archives of all of our previous shows or in your favorite podcast app. If you’d like to get in touch with us, if you want to please let chat GPT, have a rest from asking us questions during our second segment. Send us a voicemail at 7 2 0 4 4 1 6 8 2 0, or you can always find us on LinkedIn. So
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