Dennis Kennedy is an award-winning leader in applying the Internet and technology to law practice. A published...
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Published: | February 7, 2025 |
Podcast: | Kennedy-Mighell Report |
Category: | Conference Coverage , Legal Technology |
According to Tom, ABA TECHSHOW is one of the most accessible conferences out there! They strive to make technology approachable for all levels of experience—whether you’re a newbie or a tech expert, there’s a whole slew of great opportunities for learning about legal tech and engaging in social events. As seasoned TECHSHOW veterans, Dennis and Tom discuss the breadth of the conference experience and offer advice for attendees.
Later, the guys use generative AI tools to see what the top potential takeaways may be at ABA TECHSHOW 2025.
As always, stay tuned for the parting shots, that one tip, website, or observation that you can use the second the podcast ends.
Have a technology question for Dennis and Tom? Call their Tech Question Hotline at 720-441-6820 for the answers to your most burning tech questions.
Show Notes
A Segment: Talking TECHSHOW 2025
B Segment: Asking AI: Top 3 Takeaways from ABA TECHSHOW
Parting Shots:
Special thanks to our sponsors GreenFiling and Verbit AI.
Announcer:
Web 2.0 innovation collaboration, metadata got the world turning as fast as it can hear how technology can help legally speaking with two of the top legal technology experts, authors and lawyers, Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell. Welcome to the Kennedy Mighell report here on the Legal Talk Network
Dennis Kennedy:
And welcome to episode 384 of the Kennedy Mighell Report. I’m Dennis Kennedy in Ann Arbor,
Tom Mighell:
And I’m Tom Mighell in Dallas.
Dennis Kennedy:
In our last episode, we talked about teaching AI to law students and the approaches I take in my classes and other efforts at Michigan State University College of Law. In this episode we wanted to talk about a tech show, something Tom and I both have a long history with. Tom will be speaking at tech show this year and we thought it might be good to focus on the topic of tech show. Tom, what’s all on our agenda for this episode?
Tom Mighell:
Well, Dennis, in this edition of the Kennedy Mighell report, we will indeed be talking about a tech show In our second segment, we’ll be trying another new AI experiment that Dennis has cooked up one with a little bit more of a competitive flare and as usual, we’ll finish up with our parting shots, that one tip website or observation that you can start to use the second that this podcast is over. But first up, a tech show 2025. Dennis and I both, as he said, have a long history with a tech show and to be honest, I think this podcast owes a lot to a tech show for its creation. Dennis and I met on the tech show planning board and who knows if we hadn’t been on the board together at the time, things may have turned out very differently. I’m headed back there this year, Dennis, I think is having to miss it, but we both believe it’s a conference worth attending for a lot of lawyers, so we thought we’d spend a little time reminiscing about it, maybe getting some of you excited enough to come and meet me in Chicago. Dennis, I suspect this will mainly be you interviewing me this time around. What did I miss in the setup?
Dennis Kennedy:
Well, you didn’t miss anything. You mentioned the most important thing was that people should try to meet you if they go to tech show, but I think this is a really timely topic actually. I was thinking about conferences. I just got back from the Women plus AI Summit at Vanderbilt, which was fantastic, and I’m starting to work on my Revisioning Law 2025 Unconference in April at MSU. So conferences are on my mind, but I think you’re right, Tom, I’ll ask you questions and see if I can stump you with anything. Hit me, but we’ll pull out some information about Tech Show. First thing is what is it about tech show that keeps pulling you back to
Tom Mighell:
It? It’s funny because I’m not going to say the technology or the education about technology. I’m going to say two things. One is personal and selfish, and the other is really what I think makes it a special conference, which is tech show is one of the most approachable conferences that I’ve been to, which means it is accessible no matter your level of expertise. It’s designed for newcomers, people who have a little bit of knowledge about technology, but it also provides some fairly advanced things to talk about, but it is something that is consumable. A lot of conferences that I have had some relationship with or been around are less approachable, which kind of leads me to my second reason why I keep coming back. Part of the reason why it’s approachable is people are friendly there, people want to talk. There’s lots of interaction with newcomers with old timers. I made a lot of old friends going to tech show for many years, so it’s been a couple of years since I’ve been there, which is why I’m excited to go back is I miss a lot of the people that I’ve known now for over the 20 some years that I’ve been attending. So those are two reasons and I don’t think it necessarily matters if you’ve been going there 20 years or this is your first year. I think those are the types of things that you’ll figure out if you go to Tech Show.
Dennis Kennedy:
Okay, so you got invited back to speak. So what will you be speaking on and why are you excited about those sessions?
Tom Mighell:
So I’m speaking on two sessions and one is less weighty than the other. The one that I’m excited about is sort of what I get excited about on this podcast. We’re doing a session on Microsoft Teams, how lawyers can use Microsoft Teams to collaborate. So sort of feel like that’s heavily within my wheelhouse. So I’m excited about talking about that with lawyers. So if you want to know more about how to use teams and you’re not tired of what we’ve talked about on this podcast, come to Chicago. The other session that I’m doing is sort of a stroll down memory lane. The past chairs of Tech show, I was a chair two times in the past 40 years. Tech show is officially celebrating its 40th anniversary this year, and the past Chairs of Tech Show are going to do a presentation on the last day that’s called 40 Tips in 40 years.
And what we’re going to do is we’re going to take tips that were offered at some point in the last 40 years, which by now are very old and very dated and we’re going to relate it to something in the present. We’re going to relate it to how far have things come, where are we now with this technology. So it’s fun to see what we said before. There’s a lot of funny tips that were done back then that when you think about ’em now you go, my gosh, we have come so far, but they lead into still some very good tips for the present. So I’m looking forward to it. Again, a lot of friends that I’ll be presenting with that.
Dennis Kennedy:
As you mentioned, you’ve chaired the tech show board twice and I truly suspect that you could be talked into doing the trifecta.
Tom Mighell:
I was completely wrong, but thank you.
Dennis Kennedy:
So I want to go back. You talked about audiences and what you’re looking for and stuff like that, but let’s go back to the tech side of it. So from your perspective as a former board chair, what do you see as the purposes of techo in terms of tech, and then what audiences does tech show really try to serve?
Tom Mighell:
So to answer that question, I think I have to talk a little bit about other technology conferences to draw a distinction between them, at least the ones that have been the regular ones. Tech show really is a little bit different in that it is the conference for the every person lawyer no matter what size firm you’re in, but primarily solo, small firm, maybe medium-sized firm lawyers, legal Tech, which is now called Legal Week in New York has traditionally been a large firm and or eDiscovery related conference. ILTA is great on technology but it’s mostly for IT people in law firms. The Clio conference is probably one of the more amazing conferences this year, but there’s a certain aspect to it that not necessarily that you have to be a Clio user, but it definitely helps to be one to get the most out of that conference.
Tech show really has I think, broad appeal to multiple audiences, but it is primarily I think a great resource for that segment of lawyers that probably don’t get enough exposure to technology on an everyday basis, which are solo lawyers, small firm lawyers, people who don’t have IT departments or have legal technology committees or people who can help them out with technology. I think those are sort of the best audiences and that’s one of the best purposes of it is to educate them on what are new trends, what are the trends they need to know to the extent that anybody cares about legal technology, competence, what are the things they need to be thinking about, what are the ethical implications about using these things? So I think it serves multiple purposes, education, awareness, ethics issues too. And then I guess my other audience that I’ll talk about briefly is I think that to a certain extent tech show is a good resource for law students, especially law students whose law schools don’t teach as much about technology as they should be. I think that tech show offers a good broad spectrum of things to see that would help ease the culture shock that those law students would get when they walk into their firm for the first day and see that the lawyers there are practicing with 10 or 15-year-old technology tech show is good to help set reasonable expectations about what lawyers should be doing.
Dennis Kennedy:
I think the law student thing is great. So there’s a number of law schools that do send groups of students I offer to all my RAs the chance to go to tech show that I’ll cover for them. So I think that’s a good thing. The other thing I’ll mention is I first went to tech show in large part because I was on the technology committee of a mid-size firm and I think it’s a great place that is an audience if you’re involved in it or want to be on a tech committee for firm. I think tech shows is a really good way to get exposed to a lot of things and see what’s going on and get some hands on with technology. So Tom, let me ask you, as you look at the setup of the show, what do you find most appealing about this year’s edition of Tech show maybe as compared to other years?
Tom Mighell:
I’m going to kind of cop out and I’m going to bring up the keynote because I think the keynote is probably what I am most interested in. It’s a slightly different reason. I have in the past been increasingly unimpressed with keynotes at legal technology conferences. I want a keynote to be someone well-known in technology who can talk about the overarching issues that people need to think about with regard to technology that can speak to lawyers and resonate with them. I will give an example of a keynote that I think just doesn’t make sense that Legal Week this year is going to have Rob Lowe as the keynote, which great, he’s a draw, he’s a celebrity. People would love to see him. What the heck is he going to talk about with regard to, I’m assuming maybe he has played a lawyer at some point in time, but it’s been a long time.
He’s not going to talk about technology. So I was very pleased to see that The keynote this year for tech show is someone that I think Dennis, you and I’ve known for a while at least we’ve been aware of and that’s Corey Dro. It’s interesting because I’ve always associated with him with technology, but if you actually look at his bio, he’s tangentially related to technology. He likes to talk about the effects of technology and the importance of it, but he describes himself as a novelist, a journalist and a technology activist. I like that a lot. He may not be well known to this audience, but I think he’ll give a good speech most appealing about this particular year’s edition of Tech Show. There are some other things that I like about tech show but they fall under the categories of the other questions I think you’re going to ask me. So I’m going to hold off on some of those other things until it’s time to talk about it.
Dennis Kennedy:
Alright, so I’m going to ask the big question Tom, and I hope you’re prepared for this. Will there be any AI sessions? Well just kidding. So my attending tech show be actually a good way for lawyers interested in tech as part of their experience to learn more about
Tom Mighell:
Ai. I think the short sweet answer to that is yes. So if you go on the tech show website and you just count all of the sessions that have the AI tag attached to it, there are 28 sessions that concern AI or are related to ai. I think that’s a lot and it may be too much, but the good news about it is that you have a choice as to what level or what area of AI you want to focus on. Maybe you want to know the basics of what it is and how to use it. Maybe you want to know about the ethics of using it. Is this safe? Is this something I can use with my clients? What about confidentiality sort of thing. It might be what do I want to know about what AI is going to look like in the future or how do I use it with Microsoft 365 because I use that tool. What did this copilot thing, I’m a litigator, how do I use it in litigation, there are so many different approaches and ways of thinking about artificial intelligence and the law that you can pick the ones that interest you most or make you the most comfortable and get whatever education you need. So that’s what I really like about the way they’re approaching it. It may be a little bit of overkill, but I seem to think it offers a little bit of something for everybody.
Dennis Kennedy:
So you’ve already compared tech show to some of the other big legal tech shows, but I think the question for a lot of people is why would you go to tech show and how often might you go to tech show as compared to say, going to your state bar kind of equivalent, a annual type of tech event? I think there are good reasons to that, but I kind of want to get your point of view on that because in some ways that is a big competitor for Tech show. For me it was always about when might I do my state bar thing and when might I do tech show and what would be the reasons for that?
Tom Mighell:
I think there’s two aspects to that question. One is the how often and the other is what’s the difference between the two or what are the differences between the two. I may sound a little braggy about tech show but maybe not, maybe this is just the way it is. But the one attraction of the tech show has over the state bar conferences, the state bar conference tends to not be able to attract the best nationwide speakers, whether that’s because of their reach or because of their budget. I remember I used to speak periodically at Jim Callaway’s, Oklahoma Soul and Small Firm conference and I’ve spoken in the Indiana solo and small firm conference and they every year had a budget to bring one or two big name speakers into the room and I think that’s great to have, but I think that one of the things that make tech show great is you’re getting all of them now.
That is also the downside of it because, and we may talk about this a little bit more in a minute, going to tech show has got a lot of the fire hydrant aspect to it and there’s definitely a way to approach coming to tech show so you don’t feel utterly overwhelmed. And that’s why I find that going to tech show every year isn’t necessarily a requirement. A lot of times I’ve seen lawyers who’ve come to tech show to say, I came to tech show to figure out what do I need to pay attention to? What should I put on my roadmap for the next year and a half to two years and it gives me enough to take care of and get done over that period of time. So I’m very comfortable with only coming every two or maybe three years to do that. So I think that there’s a place for both types of conferences, but I think that you’ve got to decide what’s most important to you. And I think that tech show can be, I mean there’s no reason why you can’t go every year, but I also think that there’s nothing wrong with tech show in small doses.
Dennis Kennedy:
Yeah, I would say for me this year with the enormous impact that AI is having, this would be the year I would want to do a national show rather than rely on a state conference. For many of the reasons that you said, Tom, this sort of feels like a good time to take our break.
Tom Mighell:
Alright, well before we go on with more questions for me, let’s take a quick break for a message from our sponsor
Dennis Kennedy:
And we are back Tom, let’s get back to tech show. I’m going to try to pin you down a little bit here. So what personally are some of the things you are looking forward to doing and learning at tech show?
Tom Mighell:
Alright, again, selfish seeing old friends, going out to eat with old friends, presenting with old friends. Those are the things that I’m really looking forward to the most and I’m going to do all of those. I’m going to get to do all those things. I think in terms of learning, Dennis, we have talked about tech show a lot on the podcast over the years and one of the things that I have given you grief over all the time is how you never made it into a session and if you did it was like this monumentous occasion that never happened but you found more value going to tech show to the hallway conversations to sitting and meeting with people and networking with them. I have always been one who likes to spend time seeing what’s going on in the classroom, but this year I think I want to take a different approach. It’s been a while since I’ve been in a networking environment with legal technologists and I’m sort of looking forward to doing it again. So I think that’s kind of what I’m looking forward to the most is meeting people that I haven’t seen in a while, seeing what they’re up to and meeting new people, kind of see who is new on the scene in legal technology that I need to be aware of.
Dennis Kennedy:
So learning from people rather than learning from sessions I think would sum up what your approach is going to.
Tom Mighell:
There will be learning of a different kind.
Dennis Kennedy:
Yes. So I hope, and I think you do as well that people will listen to this episode and decide to go to tech show for the first time. So what’s your advice for the first time attendee?
Tom Mighell:
So the main advice, and I’m going to sound like a broken record, is do the things that are most social, try to take advantage of some of the social things. There is a welcome session at the very beginning where they give a lot of instructions, things that you need to pay attention to, get the most out of tech show, attend that first session the first morning. It’s very useful. Go to the receptions, there are tons of people that show up there and it is a great way to meet your attendees. Like I’ve mentioned the speaker’s very approachable, you got questions, go and talk to them, talk about technology, talk about anything with them. There will be an event, I think it’s only on one night this year called the Taste of Tech Show. Dennis and I have hosted our taste of tech show dinners in the past where we have hosted a group of 10 to 15 people at a restaurant somewhere around Chicago.
And it is a great opportunity to meet speakers, to meet other attendees and just have a night out where otherwise you might be grabbing room service in your room because you’re at a conference by yourself. Go out and meet those people. It’s really nice. I will say also visit the vendor hall. Part of attending a show like Tech show is to be able to get hands-on views of the types of technologies that are out there. The speakers are going to talk about it. Then you can go to the vendor hall and actually experience it. So spend some time there. I think it’s well worth it. And then finally make use of the tech show app to plan out your day. It allows you to decide here are the sessions I want to go to. Spend some time with it before you get to tech show and try to plan things out. Things might change once you get there, but at least having a plan is better than showing up and freaking out and kind of being frozen into not doing much while you’re there.
Dennis Kennedy:
And then a variation on that is I think there’s different advice and I’m curious about yours. So what’s your advice for someone who has attended before to get the most value this time?
Tom Mighell:
That’s such a hard question to answer because it’s not so much hard, but my unsatisfying answer is to think about the last time that you attended. What did you do more of that? Do more of what you liked? What did you not avoid it this year? What did you miss on doing last time? Try to do what you missed. I would say approach tech show from a different angle and did you come last time with a specific goal in mind? Is the same goal, does that make sense for you this time? Or do you want to say, you know what, last time I was focused on case management this year I need to focus on AI or document management or automation or something like that. Shift up your focus or maybe in the past you’ve been focused on going to sessions a lot and maybe instead what you should do is look at those areas that are more interactive, the different types of receptions and places to meet people and ways to learn more from the people that you’re with and talk to them more. I think try not to do what you’ve done in the past, figure out something different and you’ll have a different textual experience.
Dennis Kennedy:
Yeah. So one thing I noticed when I looked at the schedule is it seems like there are a lot of competing tracks and sessions this year. So how would you suggest that somebody navigate those sessions, especially when there are a couple you’re interested in at the same time or maybe speakers that you want to see? I mean, my answer is you could vote with your feet. You start, you say, oh, this isn’t for me. I’m not bound to be in the room. I can go to plan B and stuff like that. But that’s not always easy to do. And that’s one reason I think for you and I, if we go to a session we struggle because if we say, oh, this isn’t for us or we have something else to do, it looks like we’re walking out on somebody because we don’t like what they’re doing. But actually as a speaker you’re used to that. You’re actually say, oh, somebody said, oh, this was not pitched to the right thing or other things like that. So that’s my thoughts on it, but I’m right Tom, there are a lot of competing sessions, right? So how would you navigate that?
Tom Mighell:
So first the, I guess sort of good news is that the speakers are required to provide written materials for the presentations, whether it’s the deck that they provide or whether it’s something that’s written. So for many of the sessions, don’t worry if you can’t make them all because within the app you ought to be able to access, at least have a copy of the type of content that they were talking about. May not be the same as seeing ’em in person, but you have a trade off there. So I will go back to my earlier advice, use the app, the app will be able to show you here’s the schedule. And I usually find that that’s one of the best ways to keep track of it and try to build out. And what Dennis mentioned is something that I’ve done, I’ve said there are two sessions going on at the same time or three sessions.
I’m going to go and sit on each of them for maybe 10 minutes each and decide which of the ones grabs me the most. And I usually will find there’s one that interests me more than anything else. So dip in and out of them to see what makes sense. But if you can put all of that down and get that organized, you will feel so much better than just wandering from room to room to room without really an idea of what you’re seeing or where you’re going. It makes it so much easier to be able to do that. The app should allow you to either insert it into your own calendar or do that within the app itself. So you’re absolutely right. Both the good and the bad of tech show is there’s so much content it’s hard to know where to get started. So I would say using the app, the biggest tip is don’t do your plan as you’re sitting there in the welcome session the first morning, try to have your plan the day before or before you even hit Chicago.
Dennis Kennedy:
Mapping things out ahead of time is really a great approach. And that leads me to time. If we had to pin you down, what would you say are your best tips for tech show attendees?
Tom Mighell:
I’m such a broken record, I’ve said broken record so many times here, but I’m going to say it again. I’m going to say participate in the social events. That’s one of the things that I think makes tech show special is the people there, again, very approachable, they tend to be a lot of fun. Spend some time at the vendor floor. You’re going to learn about products in those sessions. A lot of those products are going to be represented by vendors in the vendor hall where you can get that firsthand look even better. There are products in the vendor hall that weren’t talked about. They may be tools that you’re looking for. If one of your goals is I need to get better at case management, and I’m not sure if tech show’s going to have it this year, but in the past they’ve been able to tell you, here are all of the case management vendors on the floor to go see here are all the contract management tools or the AI related tools and they’ll allow you to go take a look at ’em. So if you’ve got a plan, plan to go and visit them and see what their tools are like even if you don’t wind up going with those products, you can at least know what you do and don’t like about them. And then although I’m not a lot for swag, the vendor halls have got a lot of swag and a lot of people love taking free things home. So you’ve got that as an opportunity. I say those two things, have a plan and come say hi to me.
Dennis Kennedy:
Along those lines, what I think people have really liked and something I would recommend if there are people in this space, in the legal tech space who you follow, you read their stuff, you listen to podcasts, those sorts of things, this is an incredibly approachable group and people like to hear that you’ve read their stuff or maybe they wrote something that changed your whole practice. I mean I love hearing that. I know Tom, you do as well. And at this recent conference, it was so cool to see people come up and tell Carolyn Eant who was there, how their whole career was launched by reading her book and following her resources for solos. So that’s a really cool aspect of things. And you also find a lot of practitioners as well. So question Tom, can people just walk up and talk with you?
Tom Mighell:
I think that’s how it works. If you are, if anybody listening to this is planning to come to tech show, the first thing you can do is I think you’re allowed to make friends in the app. So if you want to connect with me in the app, that’d be great. I will look out for you. But yeah, if you see me walking around or standing in the hall or something or at the reception, please don’t hesitate. I always love to talk to our listeners and we can talk about whether or not you like the podcast or whether or not you like the books or anything you all want to talk about. I am always up for that. So definitely come and find me somewhere happy to talk. Alright, we’ve got more to talk about in this podcast, but before we do that, let’s take another quick break for a word from our sponsors. And now let’s get back to the Kennedy Mighell report. I’m Tom Mighell
Dennis Kennedy:
And I’m Dennis Kennedy. So we wanted to remind you to share the podcast with a friend or two that helps us out if you go to tech show, mention to Tom and to others so that you listen to the podcast. So in this segment, I’m always wanting to try new experiments. So I want to try another AI experiment. So think of it as a prompting contest or a prompting game show. I don’t have a name for it yet. So the idea is that Tom and I will each try to prompt an AI on the same question and then we will compare answers. So here’s the topic. Assume that someone has already attended tech show 2025 and list the three most likely takeaways they will leave with Tom. What did you get?
Tom Mighell:
Well, so first I have to say that I didn’t fully read your description before I did this and so I missed on the important word, which is contest. So I didn’t realize this was a contest moving in. So if we do this again, consider me warned, consider yourself warned because this one I feel like I took easy in terms of prompting. I was very laid back on it and frankly the results that I got are a reflection of the effort that I put into it. So what’s really hilarious here is that it gave me, and it gave me an outline. I’m not going to read the whole outline, I’m just going to read the three main takeaways, which is one, AI is no longer optional, it’s here and you need a strategy that’s takeaway one, takeaway two, the shift from DIY to automation and workflows and take away three, cybersecurity data privacy and ethics are bigger concerns than ever.
So while this may be true, I’m not sure I’m happy with this response or maybe it’s what it tells me because with the exception of ai, AI is a bigger issue now than it has been in several years. So it made sense that that was number one takeaway. The other two takeaways would apply to most every tech show conference over the past 20 years, still issues that we need to deal with. So we have to keep addressing them time after time after time. And I guess that’s not a bad thing, although I wish maybe we could get off center on it, but that was the takeaway that chat GPT had for me. Dennis, what did your prompt come up with?
Dennis Kennedy:
So I’ve been using Google Gemini Advanced and 2.0, it’s sort of like the most advanced and experimental version. And Tom, I think you will enjoy the three that I got. So number one is your takeaway would be AI is no longer emerging, it’s here and it’s transforming legal practice. Two, the modern law firm is cloud-based, automated and client-centric. And three, cybersecurity and ethical use of technology are paramount. But I was also intrigued by the summary that Gemini gave me. So it said a practicing lawyer attending a a tech show 2025 would leave with a clear understanding that the legal profession is undergoing its significant transformation driven by technology, particularly ai. They would gain practical knowledge and actionable strategies to integrate these technologies into the practice, improve efficiency, enhance client service, and navigate the ethical and cybersecurity challenges come with this new landscape, they would be equipped to embrace the future of law with greater confidence and be better prepared to compete in an increasingly tech-driven legal market. The conference would serve as a catalyst for modernization, prompting them to reevaluate their firm’s technology, infrastructure, workflows, and client engagement strategies. And I think that’s a really good answer. So that means though for us, of course, that it’s time for our parting shots, that one tip website or observation you can use the second this podcast ends. Tom, take it away.
Tom Mighell:
Well, I can’t believe that I actually found a tip for Android that iPhone doesn’t have. And I think actually iPhone does have it, just not in the wave that it doesn’t describe it in the same way, which is what I like about both Google Wallet and Apple Wallet is that they have a lot more functionality in the things that they allow you to carry. And one of the things that I’m looking forward to more often is the ability to carry your ID on your phone. And right now Texas doesn’t allow it, but there’s probably seven or eight states in the country that allow a digital id. But what Google Wallet does allow you to do is to actually put your passport in there. You can’t use your passport on the phone as your official passport. You still need to have the real one. But I’ve always been told that you should always travel with a copy of your passport just in case you lose it so you can show it to somebody, why not store it in a secure location like Google Wallet.
I put a link in the show notes on how to do that. If you have an Android phone or if you use Google Wallet, you can put it in there. I would imagine that the process is probably the same to insert a digital ID into Apple Wallet. I couldn’t find any articles that directly spoke to it in those terms, but I think that having your passport digitally in a secure way is a lot better than printing it out and putting it in a pocket in your backpack just in case you lose your passport while you’re traveling. Dennis,
Dennis Kennedy:
That’s interesting because I think I haven’t done this, but it seems like you could take the picture of your passport and put it into your password manager as well and that would be another way to do something like that.
Tom Mighell:
I mean, you essentially could take a picture of it. Also, what’s interesting about the Google Wallet way to put your passport in is that it asks you to add the passport to Google, Google Wallet. It asks you to scan the security chip inside the back cover of your passport, which is interesting because I am like, what use does Google make of that? I’m going to make an assumption here because I know that it’s all encrypted, that it’s all protected. Assuming that you’ve put a fingerprint or a face ID or something like that on your phone, it’s protected. But I’m interested to know what’s the benefit to having all that information in there.
Dennis Kennedy:
Oh, we’re Americans, we’re not concerned about privacy, so we just want convenience. And this sounds super convenient.
Tom Mighell:
Exactly right. It’s convenient.
Dennis Kennedy:
So my tip is the fast chargers have come onto my radar, and I think we talked about it in our tech resolution show as well, but I’m recommending this Rory, R-O-R-R-Y 20 watt Fast charger. So reasonably portable, really charges super fast. It just makes a big difference when you say, oh, I need to charge up my phone, my watch, whatever. And you can do it really quickly, I mean significantly quickly. And you can do it portably. So recommend it if you’re in the market for a charger. And I do want to mention my new newsletter called Personal Strategy Compass, which is on Substack and it’s about my approach to personal quarterly offsites, which is a productivity technique I’ve developed and used myself.
Tom Mighell:
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