Special Reports From ABA TECHSHOW 2016


This year’s ABA TECHSHOW included many great speakers and topics. We were able to sit down for interviews with presenters and to address hot button topics in Special Reports recorded and produced right from the expo hall floor!

You can listen to the episodes below. Subscribe to Special Reports in iTunes to receive alerts when new reports and interviews from upcoming conferences are available.

Keynote Speaker Cindy Cohn on NSA Mass Surveillance

At the ABA TECHSHOW, Cindy Cohn gave a keynote speech discussing the NSA, the fourth amendment, the Apple vs. FBI case, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF).

Bringing Affordable Legal Services to the Masses

In this Special Report host Ray Abadin sits down with CEO and Founder of Avvo Inc. Mark Britton to discuss his ABA TECHSHOW 2016 presentation entitled,”Atticus Finch, and Access: Bringing Quality and Affordable Legal Services to the Masses.”

Practicing Law in an Age of Mass Surveillance

What has changed for lawyers in this “post-Snowden” world? Although this topic could be discussed for days, we lightly touch on the main themes in this Special Report with David Lat, Ben Wizner, and host Sharon Nelson.

Microsoft Office Add-ins and Apps

In this Special Report, Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews lawyers and legal technology experts Bob Ambrogi and Catherine Sanders Reach about Microsoft Office tips you can use in your law practice today.

Meaningful Presentations on a Budget

Do you want to create impressive and meaningful presentations without having ample finances? Get some advice from Mark Hindelang and Joshua Hoeppner in this episode of Special Reports with host Laurence Colletti.

Passing Your IT Security Audit

Cyber security experts Sherri Davidoff and Sharon Nelson spoke in a presentation titled “Passing Your IT Security Audit” at ABA TECHSHOW 2016. Before their presentation, they stop by to discuss the topic with Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti.

Collaboration Tools That Save You Time

One of the hosts of the presentation, “Realtime Collaboration Isn’t Just for Conference Rooms Anymore,” Tobin talks about how lawyers who work together in systems like Google Docs rather than sending emails back and forth can really save time.

Collaboration Tools That Save You Time: Part 2

This Special Report continues the discussion of independent collaboration tools that streamline processes and reduce the time you spend working together. Adam Nguyen stops by to chat about these new tools with Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti during ABA TECHSHOW 2016.

Cloudy with a Chance of Automation

In this Special Report, Jared Correia interviews Heidi Alexander, Joseph Bahgat, John Mayer, Larry Port, Jack Newton, and Andrew LeGrand, and presenters at ABA TECHSHOW 2016

Empower Your Client’s Autonomy with Technology

At ABA TECHSHOW 2016, Dennis Kennedy interviews legal technology consultant Jeff Krause about implementing firm practices to create an autonomous experience for clients.

Using Excel in Your Law Office

Hosts Sharon D. Nelson and John W. Simek interview ABA TECHSHOW 2016 presenters Ivan Hemmans and Allan Mackenzie about how beginners and experts can better use Excel to improve their law practice.

The Mac Power Users

In this Special Report, John W. Simek interviews Macintosh experts Katie Floyd, Jeff Schoenberger, and David Sparks about their presentation at ABA TECHSHOW 2016

Creating Compelling Podcast and Video Content

In this Special Report, Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews Legal Talk Network CEO Adam Camras and legal technology expert Tom Mighell about creating valuable content, what equipment you might need, and steps you can take today to get started.

If you enjoyed these reports, be sure to subscribe to Special Reports in iTunes to receive alerts when new reports and interviews from conferences are available.

For more from ABA TECHSHOW, including video interviews, blogs, photos, and more, read TECHSHOW Today: Video Interviews from ABA TECHSHOW.

TECHSHOW Today: Video Interviews from ABA TECHSHOW


At this year’s ABA TECHSHOW, Vice Chair Adriana Linares (also the host of New Solo and the Florida Bar Podcast) and Kennedy-Mighell Report co-host Dennis Kennedy sat down for live interviews with some of the speakers, attendees, and TECHSHOW Chair Steve Best. In this TECHSHOW Today series, the duo and their guests discuss the conference, cloud computing, multi-device use, lawyers as entrepreneurs, the future of legal tech, and more.

For more video content like this, don’t forget to subscribe to Legal Talk Network on YouTube.

Steve Best and Randy Juip: The Board’s Focus for TECHSHOW 2016 and The Mac Track

In this previously recorded live broadcast, ABA TECHSHOW 2016 Chair and Affinity Consultant Group owner Steve Best and Randy Juip of Foley Baron Metzgir Juip sit down with Adriana Linares and Dennis Kennedy to discuss the current state of lawyering and the future.

Steve Best shared details of a meeting immediately after TECHSHOW 2015, and how this year the board was focused on breaking the mold and challenging everyone to find new speakers and cutting edge topics.

Juip, who runs the Mac track at the conference, talks about why the track drew him to TECHSHOW in the first place, lessons he learned when leaving his firm for a new job that required him to be more tech savvy, and the value in learning and training tips with other attendees. This year’s Mac track focused on teaching attorneys to use Macs more effectively through sessions like “Taking the Plunge”, which encouraged attorneys to jump from PCs.

Barbara Leach: The Importance of Conferences, Networking, and the Future of Legal

First time attendee Barbara Leach joins Adriana Linares and Dennis Kennedy to discuss ABA TECHSHOW, the importance of conferences and networking, and the future of legal.

Joshua Lenon of Clio: Cloud Computing, Multi-Device Use, and the LCCA

Joshua Lenon, Lawyer in Residence for Clio, sits down with Adriana Linares during ABA TECHSHOW 2016 to discuss his role at Clio, the conference and its benefits, the cloud, multi-device use and how it affects information storage, the Legal Cloud Computing Association (LCCA), and more.

Debbie Foster: TECHSHOW App, Bar Associations, Tips for Next Year’s Conference

Debbie Foster joins Adriana Linares and Dennis Kennedy to give recognition to ABA TECHSHOW board members, the app and its uses, the various bar associations, and all of the people who get involved. They also share tips for those who plan to attend TECHSHOW next year.

Michael Robak and Ed Sohn: E-Discover, AI, Education, the Dean’s Roundtable, and Creating Tools that Supplement Lawyers Rather Than Replace Them

University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law Associate Law Library Director and CTO Michael Robak joins Senior Director of Legal Managed Services at Thomson Reuters Ed Sohn as well as Adriana Linares and Dennis Kennedy to discuss ABA TECHSHOW 2016.

Their conversation discusses e-discovery, artificial intelligence and whether we’ll see it coming to law, the importance of education and awareness, and more.

“E-discovery has yet to be discovered by law schools.” – Michael Robak

Is e-discovery a saturated market? Where can value be added? 9 out of 10 surveyed respondents in a survey reported they were unhappy with their solution. Technology is moving quickly but adoption is still low.

Michael Robak also touched on the Dean’s Roundtable, a panel that discussed opportunities to develop technology and create tools that supplement lawyers rather than replace them.

Tom Mighell and Nicole Bradick: Relationship Building, Attendee to Speaker, Lawyers as Entrepreneurs

Nicole Bradick, chief strategy officer at CureLegal, and Tom Mighell sit down with Dennis Kennedy to discuss ABA TECHSHOW 2016.

Nicole started out as an attendee and transformed into an involved speaker for her third year of attendance. Nicole first came to TECHSHOW because of her reliance on technology, and finds the networking and relationship building at the conference social events to be invaluable. Nicole presented on lawyers as entrepreneurs and discussed innovating business practices and canvases to think differently about their practices.

For more coverage of ABA TECHSHOW, including podcasts recorded at the conference, read Reporting from ABA TECHSHOW.

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Reporting from ABA TECHSHOW 2016


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“The ABA TECHSHOW Conference and EXPO is where lawyers, legal professionals, and technology all come together. For three days, attendees learn about the most useful and practical technologies available. Our variety of CLE programming offers a great deal of education in just a short amount of time.”

ABA TECHSHOW®, presented by the ABA Law Practice Division, was a blast! We conducted live video interviews, recorded and produced audio interviews in Special Reports, and blogged from sessions. Keep reading for conference coverage.

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New Solo host Adriana Linares and Kennedy-Mighell Report co-host Dennis Kennedy hosted live interviews from the conference. You can watch the recorded broadcasts in the playlist below. Just click the skip ahead button or the 1/6 icons to watch others, or select an interview from the list below.

More TECHSHOW Today Interviews
Steve Best and Randy Juip: The Board’s Focus for TECHSHOW 2016 and The Mac Track
Tom Mighell and Nicole Bradick: Relationship Building, Attendee to Speaker, Lawyers as Entrepreneurs
Joshua Lenon of Clio: Cloud Computing, Multi-Device Use, and the LCCA
Michael Robak and Ed Sohn: E-Discover, AI, Education, the Dean’s Roundtable, and Creating Tools that Supplement Lawyers Rather Than Replace Them
Barbara Leach: The Importance of Conferences, Networking, and the Future of Legal
Debbie Foster: TECHSHOW App, Bar Associations, Tips for Next Year’s Conference

For all live interviews, visit TECHSHOW Today: Video Interviews from ABA TECHSHOW.

Special Reports From ABA TECHSHOW 2016

To listen to all reports from this conference, visit Special Reports from ABA TECHSHOW 2016.

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Blogposts and Photos

Adam Camras, Dennis Kennedy, and Allison Shields at ABA TECHSHOW 2016
Legal Talk Network CEO Adam Camras joins Dennis Kennedy and Allison Shields at the Beer for Bloggers event.

Buildings at night
Beautiful shot from our in-house artistic talent, Kimberly Faber. The amazing weather in Chicago made for good nighttime pictures.

Jason Marsh and Laurence Colletti during Beer for Bloggers
Jason Marsh gets hard core during his Beer for Bloggers interview. Podcast coming soon…

Kimberly Faber and Laurence Colletti behind the scenes at TECHSHOW Today.
TECHSHOW Today hosts and the audio mixer
Behind the scenes at TECHSHOW Today.

ABA TECHSHOW Power Mac Track Hosts
The Mac Power Users discuss their presentation and tips that can really help lawyers (and anyone) who use Macs. ABA TECHSHOW 2016: The Mac Power Users

ABA TECHSHOW Interview about Automation
An interview with Heidi Alexander, Jared Correia, John Mayer, Larry Port, Jack Newton, Andrew LeGrand, and Joseph Bahgat. Listen here: ABA TECHSHOW 2016: Cloudy with a Chance of Automation

The best marketing we’ve seen yet.


The NSA, Fourth Amendment, and Apple vs. FBI in Cindy Cohn’s ABA TECHSHOW Keynote Speech


by Kelsey Johnson

The keynote speaker, Cindy Cohn, was introduced with a quote from The National Law Journal, “[I]f Big Brother is watching, he better look out for Cindy Cohn.” Since she discussed the NSA and data collection  on Legal Talk Network in 2014, I am familiar with her story and her passion for user privacy and freedom of expression. But Ms. Cohn’s keynote speech was a strong statement that captured the attention of the entire audience. According to her, it should. We are all affected by mass surveillance of internet communications.

Cohn, executive director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), began the keynote by describing the EFF’s passion for civil liberties in an increasingly technological world. The organization started 25 years ago, we learned, is funded by the community, and focuses on litigation, activation, and building technologies to help its cause. Later, she candidly admitted that the speech is not unbiased; she endeavors to have us join her cause.

At this point, Cohn dove deep into the details of NSA spying, the stages of data collection, and the extent to which she believes this data collection and surveillance goes against the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. I couldn’t possibly do her thorough and engaging explanation justice, so please see what she has  authored on the subject. I personally learned that most mass data collection and analysis is done under the guise of protection from foreign threat.

“How many people in here have iPhones?” Cohn then asked. More than half of the audience raised their hands and, with an eyebrow raise, she reminded us of the importance of the FBI versus Apple case, currently pending. This case, apparently chosen because of the terrorism factor, was thought to have elicited a sympathetic response from the public. The public outcry seems to be that we are compromising privacy for security, but we are actually compromising security for security. Can we as the public afford to compromise the security Apple works hard to create in order for the NSA to keep our country secure?

After her fervent finale, she answered some questions, and then was closed by an enthusiastic standing ovation. Cohn herself admitted that her topic is much more popular in a post-Snowden world and she is right. Her keynote speech was well received and the audience was enthralled.

Cindy Cohn

Cindy Cohn came by the Legal Talk Network booth after her speech for an exclusive interview with Dennis Kennedy and Bob Ambrogi. Stay tuned for it to go live.

Notes from an ABA TECHSHOW Presentation: Develop A Niche Practice as a Marketing Tool


By Kelsey Johnson

“If your clients believe you are better than your competition, they are willing to pay you more for your services.” -Jason Marsh

General Practice to Boutique: Developing a Niche Practice

Talking about niche law practices is an entertaining subject in itself, but presenters Jason Marsh, Andrew Legrand, and Will Hornsby deliver their marketing advice with humor and clear experience in their presentation “General Practice to Boutique: Developing a Niche Practice”. Why develop a niche practice? Essentially, it’s a marketing tool to target a certain audience and grow your practice. Even if you think your target area is narrow, go even further to focus geographically or in a certain field. For example, if you are a business lawyer, market yourself as a small business lawyer. If you practice personal injury, be an injury lawyer for bicycle accidents in Denver. In other words, make your potential clients understand why you are special and they should choose you over your competition.

As a niche lawyer, you can create a brand and notoriety behind yourself. Basically, you want people to know your name so that when there is an issue you are THE lawyer to turn to. For examples, Marsh, Legrand, and Hornsby include many fun niches like wine law, the food truck lawyer, bicycle law, equine law, packaging law, and drone law.

Although the presenters weigh heavily on a top-of-mind mentality, the underlying idea of this presentation is SEO. After identifying and properly funneling a niche, Marsh says, you can use content strategies, social media, email, pay-per-click marketing, or other tactics to rank in the search engines when people search for topics in your practice area. Without the online marketing, your niche is likely to be much less valuable and important.

And don’t forget, you aren’t limited to your niche. If properly done, it’s just an effective marketing tool to increase online visibility and notoriety.

Ethics rules for advertising vary state to state so make sure you and your marketing consultant are aware of your state’s rules.

Legal Talk Network to Host Evolve Law Conference in May


Legal Talk Network is set to host the Evolve Law conference on Thursday, May 19th from 5:30 p.m.to 8:30 p.m. at studio headquarters (3120 Blake Street) in Denver.

Click here to register for the event.

The event is one of many smaller, regional meetings focusing on technology in law, and will include a panel, Darwin Talk, and details for those on the customer-facing side of legal. You can read more details about the event below.

In this new evolvelawera of smartphones, personalization, and efficiency, it’s becoming increasingly difficult for attorneys and law firms to give their clients the services that they demand. And there has been talk of “death of big law.” Experts point to the increasing price, the low accessibility, and the inconveniences of the current legal industry as reasons, but all of these aspects encompass a common core problem – a lack of client-driven technology solutions. Join our expert panel to see where the future of law is headed and explore new innovations that are available for attorneys to use to help make their clients feel more valued.


5:30 p.m. – Demo Tables for Innovators & Sponsors During Networking Wine & Cheese
6:20 p.m. – Welcome with Adam Camras, CEO Lawgical & Legal Talk Network and Mary Juetten, Traklight & Evolve Law
6:30 p.m. – Expert Panel: Client-Driven Technology Solutions
Moderator: Frank Bruno, Director, Iron Mountain Intellectual Property Management
Kate White, Client Engagement & Innovation Strategist, Davis Wright Tremaine
John Rome, CEO, Intensity Analytics
Kathryn DeBord, Chief Innovation Officer, Bryan Cave
7:30 p.m. – Darwin Talk
7:40 p.m. – More Networking & Demo Tables

Law Technology Now Returns!


Law Technology Now PodcastWe are excited to announce the return of one of our most popular shows this February! Monica Bay and Bob Ambrogi have brought Law Technology Now back to the air in an exciting new format, alternating hosting duties and providing a different perspective in each episode.

The show is already tackling important issues in technology and law. Fastcase CEO Ed Walters joined Bob Ambrogi (who also co-hosts Lawyer 2 Lawyer) to discuss recent developments in software, and Lex Machina CEO Josh Becker sat down with Monica Bay to discuss how and why analytics should drive litigation.

Catch up on recent episodes:

Law Technology Now originally ran from 2007 to 2013, before going on hiatus. Now, with a new format and new shows, Law Technology Now has officially returned!

“I am very pleased to announce the launch of our new podcast, Law Technology Now, co-hosted with Monica Bay, longtime editor of Law Technology News now a fellow at CodeX, the Stanford Center for Legal Informatics, and produced by the Legal Talk Network. In each episode, Monica and I will explore the latest in legal technology. We’ll be joined by key players in the legal technology community to highlight the top trends and developments in the legal world.”
– Bob Ambrogi

Read more here: Announcing My New Podcast with Monica Bay, Law Technology Now, and New Interviews with Fastcase’s Ed Walters and Lex Machina’s Josh Becker

“Bob and I go back seemingly forever: We both ran units at ALM (he was the Editor-in-Chief of the National Law Journal and Editorial Director, Litigation Services Division; I lead Law Technology News). For 15 years, Bob wrote a column, “Web Watch,” for LTNews. Our only ongoing disagreement: Yankees (me), Red Sox (Bob).”

– Monica Bay

Read more here: Law Technology Now: Josh Becker on Lex Machina

“This has been a long time coming for us,” said producer Laurence Colletti. “We’re big fans of Monica and Bob and are excited to see how they will work together to bring a fresh new perspective to an already standout show.”

You can subscribe on iTunes or update your email preferences for alerts whenever new episodes are available.

An Open Letter to Our Listeners, Sponsors, Hosts, and Guests


Dear Listeners, Sponsors, Hosts and Guests,

Legal Talk NetworkFor my last blog entry of 2015, I want to thank everyone who’s made this a superb year in podcasting. During the course of the year we traveled all over the country, met lots of wonderful people, and watched our listener base grow. We are so grateful for the amazing times and experiences shared. From the sleepless streets of New York City and beaches of Boca Raton to the Magnificent Mile of Chicago and “Western Ivy” of Stanford, it’s been quite an adventure both in and out of the studio!

First of all, thank you to our growing listener base. Without you there’s no network and that means no fun! We appreciate your continued support and promise to work tirelessly to bring you the most informative and hopefully entertaining podcasts in legal.

Also, thank you to our guests. We look forward to the continued listens of your past episodes as well as future collaborations on new projects.

And, of course, a special thank you to our sponsors for all of their support. We appreciate your continued belief in our productions and look forward to another year of working with you.

(Enter Stage Left: Sappy Sentiment and Inside Jokery) Thank you to our hosts. The airwaves would be empty and boring without you! We are looking forward to future recordings and meeting your new guests. Special shout outs for the following:  

  • Adriana Linares, a.k.a. our Ringer from Florida who hosts New Solo and The Florida Bar Podcast. We love traveling with you and your hilarious laughter. Please send good vibes to Grandpa Marsh!
  • Stephanie Francis Ward and Lee Rawles, our esteemed ABA Journalists. We enjoy your professionalism and on-point interview style. Please wish Allen, Molly, Reg, Victor, Terry, and Jonathan a happy new year for us!
  • Fabiani Duarte and Madison Burke from ABA Law Student Podcast. Your energy and spirit are infectious. Great work launching your new show! Thank you Austin and thank you Adam for all of your help!
  • Joe Patrice and Elie Mystal from Above the Law’s Thinking Like a Lawyer. You crack us up with your gear-grinding rants and off-the-cuff commentary. Please tell David, Jon, Hsiaolei, Staci, Laura, Kathryn, Lauren, and, yes, Brutus that we miss them!
  • John Czuba from AM Best. We are just getting to know you, but so far so good. Please wish Jennifer Fink a happy new year for us!  🙂
  • John Simek and Sharon Nelson, our Digital Detectives. You are always poised and ready with top-notch Q&A, setting a very high bar for Vulcans universe-wide!
  • Jim Calloway, a.k.a. the Okie Thunder from the Digital Edge. You blow our mics up with your mad knowledge on legal technology. Happy trails cowboy!
  • Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell, from the Kennedy-Mighell Report. We just can’t get enough of your back-and-forth agree-to-disagrees. Wishing you and yours a most happy new year!
  • Randy Milch from In-House Legal, a New York gent doing it his way with swagger to spare! Please give our best regards to the missus and family!
  • Bob Ambrogi and J. Craig Williams from Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Congratulations on 10 years of podcasting excellence! Time to break out your Red Sox and scuba gear!
  • Jared Correia and Heidi Alexander from the Legal Toolkit and Lunch Hour Legal Marketing. Together, you stylishly spin laughter and obscure Warren Zevon lyrics into practice wisdom. #SummerOfLunch.
  • Vicki Voisin from the Paralegal Voice. You’re our paralegal hostess with the mostest. Please give our best to the Don!
  • Larry Cohen from Ringler Radio. Thank you for another great year of working together! Please give Lu Ann, Kate, and Mike our best!
  • Chad Volkert from the Robert Half Legal Report. Always bringing great information on a great show! Please let Lisa Hamilton know we miss her!
  • Christopher Anderson from the Un-Billable Hour. Your killer content is as unstoppable as his running regimen. Thank you for the inspiration!
  • Alan Pierce from Workers Comp Matters. Thank you for another great year and congratulations on your recent election to the presidency of WILG!

And last but certainly not least, thank you to my co-workers. Being part of our team is quite a privilege. To our CEO, Adam Camras, thank you for not judging my moldy old computer bag and constantly recommending the Waze travel app. To our CTO, Trent Carlyle, thank you for creating new and dangerous games involving office furniture. To Kimberly Faber, thank you for not killing me despite my Overcapitalization Of Everything. And finally, to Kelsey Johnson, thank you for showing me how to use the coffee pot and your snarky repertoire.

In case you are just catching up with us, below are links to our blog entries featuring our travel adventures and special events. Each post showcases thought leaders in law sharing their valuable experiences with our listeners. Among the many interviewees are mayors, state representatives and senators, presidents and leaders at the American Bar Association,  judges from the federal and state court systems, professors at top U.S. law schools, presidents and practice management advisors from the various state bars, general counsels and executives from major U.S. companies, journalists and editors from major legal publications, and top legal bloggers, podcasters, and authors.

 Our 2015 Adventures in Podcasting:

(Exit Stage Right: Looking forward to 2016) Again, 2015 was such an amazing year in podcasting. Thank you to everyone who played a part and special thanks once again to our listeners all over the world. Next year will see many new shows added to the network. In addition, we are looking forward to adding new team members as we boost our quality and reach. Have a wonderful New Year’s Eve!!!

Kindest Regards,

Laurence Colletti
Producer – Legal Talk Network


Our 21 Most Popular Podcasts of 2015


by Kelsey Johnson

Legal Talk Network Microphones 300pxAs listeners may or may not know, Legal Talk Network produces and publishes over 15 podcasts and provides exclusive interviews from legal conferences throughout the year. In 2015, we covered a variety of issues important to lawyers, law firm employees, and law students including topics like legal technology, best firm practices, finding the right job, and much, much more.

Because I listen to all of our podcasts, I know my favorites, but our listeners are the ones who really matter. For that reason, I have listed the episode of each podcast that was most downloaded and listened to in the car, at the gym, or wherever you decided to consume our legal content this year. From our attorney analysis of the Serial case to the ethical duty of tech competence, here are our Top 21 Podcasts of 2015!

So take a look and maybe try out a new podcast. Maybe you’ll remember a particularly useful episode that you want to revisit or you’ll discover an entirely new set of quirky hosts. If you do, let us know in the comments or on Twitter using the hashtag #LegalTalk2015!

1. Lawyer 2 Lawyer

Breaking Down The Serial Podcast – Attorneys Dissect Adnan Syed’s Case

Bob Ambrogi and J. Craig Williams discuss Serial and the case it made famous with three attorneys.

2. ABA Journal: Asked and Answered

How can attorneys get help without harming their careers?

What are your ethical duties if you know that a colleague is battling an addiction or suffering from mental health problems?

3. ABA Journal: Modern Law Library

Grammar nerds, meet your Comma Queen

Mary Norris,a copy editor for the New Yorker since 1978, discusses lawyers’ affinity for language and the behind-the-scenes challenges involved in magazine editing.

4. ABA Law Student Podcast

Senator Lindsey Graham on Getting Through Law School and Being a Lawyer

Senator Lindsey Graham discusses getting through law school, being an advocate, and public service loan forgiveness.

5. Thinking Like a Lawyer – Above the Law

Legal Feud

Above the Law editors Joe Patrice and Elie Mystal face off in a trivia challenge. Do you know your constitutional amendments? How about your Supreme Court history? Play along at home.

6. Digital Detectives

Forensic Science in the Criminal Justice System: What is Admissible?

Judge David Waxse discusses the relationship between bad science and wrongful convictions and how we can improve the use of forensic science in the criminal justice system.

7. In-House Legal

Skills for Success as a General Counsel

Mark Roellig, General Counsel of MassMutual, is interviewed about the skills lawyers need to go in-house or become a general counsel, how to properly manage an in-house team of attorneys, and why diversity is important in business.

8. New Solo

How David Sparks Started His Solo Practice

David Sparks talks about why he decided to go solo, the first actions he took, and struggles he encountered during the process.

9. Special Reports

2015 ABA TECHSHOW: The Ethical Duty of Technological Competence with Andrew Perlman

Andrew Perlman discusses how the lawyer’s ethical duty of competence is evolving and what level of technological proficiency is reasonably expected today.

10. The Digital Edge

Speech Recognition and Dictation Solutions for Today’s Lawyer

Britt Lorish talks about speech recognition and dictation solutions, added benefits of current dictation software, common misconceptions about Dragon NaturallySpeaking, and the best microphones and apps to consider.

11. The Florida Bar Podcast

Admission on Motion, Reciprocity, the UBE, and Non-Lawyer Licensing

Lawyer and chair of The Florida Bar Admissions Committee Lance Scriven talks about the pros and cons of Admission on Motion, the Uniform Bar Examination, and non-lawyer legal professional licensing.

12. The Kennedy-Mighell Report

How A Lawyer Can Control Their To-Do List With Task Managers and Technology

Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell discuss taming the to-do list, their own approaches to using technology to help with task management, and questions every lawyer should ask when looking for a management tool to suit their needs.

13. The Legal Toolkit

What Does the 21st Century Legal Career Look Like?

Alison Monahan and Lee Burgess, founders of the online resource Trebuchet Legal, examine the steps to creating an alternative legal career path and give suggestions to what students should be doing in law school to prepare for the future.

14. The Paralegal Voice

Paralegal Education and Landing a Job

Many paralegals have problems getting a job with no experience but can’t get experience without having a job. This is one of the worst paradoxes in the field. Tune in for tips from Madonna University paralegal professor Mary Meinzinger Urisko, J.D.

15. The Un-Billable Hour

Law Firm Leadership: Build Your A Team

Broel Law Group founder Erik Broel analyzes what it means to build an “A Team,” how attorneys should hire and train their staff, and the underlying qualities of becoming a successful leader.

16. Workers Comp Matters

Chronic Pain, Opioid Addiction, and Injured Workers

Dr. Joel Morton takes a look at the association between chronic pain and opioid addiction and talks about alternative treatments to long-term opioid prescription.

17. Lunch Hour Legal Marketing

The 21st Century Lawyer: Utilizing Technology Competency as a Marketing Tool

An overview of the new skills and competencies that lawyers should have today that they did not need only 20 or 25 years ago, especially with regard to the use of technology.

18. Ringler Radio

Spotlight on a New, Non-Traditional “Structured Settlement” Product

A spotlight on Havelet Assignment Company and their new non-traditional ‘Fixed Annuity Product,’ called Havelet Fixed.

19. Robert Half Legal Report

Making Succession Planning an Ongoing Priority

An examination of the importance of succession planning and why it is imperative to the future viability of law firms.

20. The ESI Report

2015 Trade Shows and Trends in E-Discovery

Two experts in the e-discovery field, Eric Robinson and James Sherer, discuss their main takeaways from the Jolt Symposium and Legaltech New York and how current trends could affect the day-to-day jobs of e-discovery professionals.

21. The Insurance Law Podcast

Attorney Discusses Landmark New York Case Pertaining to Legal Malpractice Claims

Attorney Anthony Grande discusses a controversial case recently decided by the New York Court of Appeals pertaining to legal malpractice claims.

Cloudy with a Chance of #Growth


by Laurence Colletti

ClioAfter returning from the Clio Cloud Conference in Chicago, Illinois, we had much to do and lots to think about. All in all we captured 15 interviews with about half in panel format. In a whirlwind of edits, titles, and descriptions, it took me a while to process what we’d seen. I read the tweets of others, conversed prolifically at social events, and consulted the blog of Legal Talk Network host Bob Ambrogi. What came into focus was subtle, at least at first.

To date, most of the legal conferences we’ve attended have been about access to justice, lack of technology in the legal profession, and the future of law. What hasn’t been present—unless I missed something—was real talk about growth. Sure, most of us have encountered presentations and platforms that delve into productivity and efficiency, which are pathways to growth, but I am talking about real growth as opposed to doing more with less.

Perhaps it’s the third cup of coffee talking, but I noticed a whisper of something new in the Windy City. Attendees were past the point of mulling over the problems and uncertainty with the legal profession. It was like the tide rolled out revealing a paradigm of yep… we are here, but that’s where we’re going. It seemed that the time for asking questions and making calculations was giving way to action.

For me, this whisper started with Jack Newton’s interview about his keynote address. In it, we talked about the growth of his company and the need to provide effortless service where clients are collaborators and friction points are reduced. Client loyalty is not built upon providing delight, rather it’s about making the service as effortless and pain-free as possible. This, Jack believes, is what clients are looking for, and those lawyers that are able to provide it will be rewarded by new and repeat business.

Jack’s point was reinforced when we interviewed Professor David Wilkins from Harvard Law School. Professor Wilkins shared with us a story about his ill-fated Mac computer that suffered death-by-beverage. When he ultimately replaced his machine, he was pleased to discover that the new one was faster, better, and cheaper. He furthered that consumers are increasingly expecting this with everything they buy, because they have more information at their fingertips than ever before. Sounds great, but there’s a limit on this “more-for-less” when you expect to grow. According to Professor Wilkins, collaboration is the key. By that he means collaboration with other lawyers and clients—emphasis on clients. Lawyers that are able to collaborate will find new ways to increase their value, decrease expense to clients, and, yes, grow their practice.

Building upon the points made by Jack and Professor Wilkins are remarks by Legalzoom CEO John Suh. After an extended Q&A session following his keynote, John was gracious enough to join us for a late afternoon interview. During our time together, we talked about the two most efficient types of law firm from the perspective of billable hours: big law firms and firms of 11-20 attorneys.

Using that as a basis for comparison to smaller firms, John’s analysis reveals that solos and small firms have a lot of untapped billable potential and produce specialists at a much slower rate. From that perspective, growth opportunities are more limited for the vast majority of practitioners, but there’s hope. John shared some of the lessons he learned at the helm of Legalzoom. First, a big firm model is not ideal for every client. This is especially true in terms of their relatively high attorney’s fees. Second, by using modern day platforms for acquiring clients, lawyers can create sustainable growth in their practice by adhering to three principles: transparency, streamlining, and accountability.

By way of transparency, John recommends setting clear expectations when it comes to cost. Even if an exact figure cannot be reached, you should go over what drives expense, provide best estimations, and give a rough idea of how long a matter will take. As for streamlining, John refers to communication. When explaining concepts to clients, lawyers should curb the desire to use legalease and invest more thought into writing simply and speaking plainly. And finally, there’s accountability by participating in online reviews. Attorneys that brave both the good and the bad reviews are building public trust with potential clients. That trust is valuable currency in the brave new world of providing legal services.

These are but a few of the many growth ideas discussed at the Clio Cloud Conference. If you are looking to expand your firm and improve your deliverables as an attorney, you should definitely listen to our collection of interviews—listed below. This collection of recordings feature many thought provoking conversations with industry thought leaders like:  

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Clio Cloud 2015: Effortless Services with Clio CEO Jack Newton

Clio Co-Founder and CEO Jack Newton sits down to talk about effortless services, the educational tracks at Clio Cloud Conference, and new features within the Clio platform designed to help lawyers grow their practices. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Effortless Services with Clio CEO Jack Newton

Clio Cloud 2015: Democratization of Law with Legalzoom CEO John Suh

Legalzoom CEO John Suh stops by to talk about efficient law firm models and three principles of growth for solos and small firms. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Democratization of Law with Legalzoom CEO John Suh

Clio Cloud 2015: The Global Age of More for Less with Professor David Wilkins

Professor David Wilkins of Harvard Law School joins us to discuss ‘The Global Age of More for Less’ which includes growth topics about globalization, speed of technology, and changing client preferences. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Global Age of More for Less with Professor David Wilkins

Clio Cloud 2015: The Supreme Court’s Bubble with Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick

Dahlia Lithwick, senior editor at Slate, stops by to talk about her beat covering the Supreme Court, predictions for the upcoming SCOTUS session, and the types of lawyers that can make it all the way to our highest court. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Supreme Court’s Bubble with Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick

Clio Cloud 2015: Knowledge Management with Connie Crosby

Connie Crosby, a knowledge management consultant, sits down to discuss the importance of managing legacy knowledge within law firms to make sure it’s stored and protected against loss in the event of employee turnover and death. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Knowledge Management with Connie Crosby

Clio Cloud 2015: Leveraging APIs for Better Practice Management

Dan Lear, Avvo’s director of industry relations; Debbie Mignola, founder and CEO of Intake 123; and practicing attorney Sam Redlich join host Adriana Linares to discuss leveraging APIs for better practicing management. If you use multiple software platforms during your day, you should tune in to hear about ways to use them more efficiently. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Leveraging APIs for Better Practice Management

Clio Cloud 2015: Professionalism as a Survival Strategy with Jayne Reardon

Jayne Reardon, executive director of the Commission on Professionalism to the Illinois Supreme Court, stops by to talk about ABA Model Rules, possible changes thereof, and alternative business structures in law firms. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Professionalism as a Survival Strategy with Jayne Reardon

Clio Cloud 2015: A Fireside Legal Chat about Outsourcing and Project Management

Basha Rubin, co-founder and CEO of Priori Legal, Mirra Levitt, co-founder and general counsel for Priori Legal, and Agile Certified Scrum Master John E. Grant stop by to talk about outsourcing, lean/agile principles, and where clients are looking for lawyers. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: A Fireside Legal Chat about Outsourcing and Project Management

Clio Cloud 2015: The Experts Discuss Online Marketing Strategies for Law Firms

Gyi Tsakalakis, founder of AttorneySync, Eva Hibnick, co-founder of One400, and Allen Rodriguez, co-founder of One400, catch up with hosts Adriana Linares and Jason Marsh to discuss local search, reviews, experiential marketing, and much, much more. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Experts Discuss Online Marketing Strategies for Law Firms

Clio Cloud 2015: Innovational Law Practices and Lasting Digital Brands

Peter Carayiannis, founder of Conduit Law, David Sparks, co-host of Mac Power Users Podcast, Shantelle Argyle, co-founder of Open Legal Services, and Julie Tolek, founder of Think Pink Law, sit down to talk about efficiency tools like Slack, Sanebox, and Lexicata as well as the three P’s of building digital brands: passion, personality, and persuasion. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Innovational Law Practices and Lasting Digital Brands

Clio Cloud 2015: Technology Trends and Firm Performance

Billie Tarascio, family law lawyer and entrepreneur, Mary Juetten, founder and CEO of Traklight, and Duncan Stewart, director of TMT research for Deloitte Canada, sit down to discuss measuring law firm business performance and predictions for communicating with clients in the future: Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Technology Trends and Firm Performance

Clio Cloud 2015: Applied Lessons from Modern Data Operations

Fraser Newton, Clio’s lead scientist, and George Psiharis, Clio’s vice president of Business Development, stop by to talk about what law firms can learn from their sales team in the form of key performance indicators. If you are interested in growing your legal practice, you should definitely tune in. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Applied Lessons from Modern Data Operations

Clio Cloud 2015: Work-Life Balance for Lawyers with Jeena Cho

Attorney, author, and mindfulness teacher Jeena Cho joins us for a discussion about work-life balance and to perform a two minute guided meditation on the air. Tune in to hear how she overcame burnout to live a happier healthier life. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Work-Life Balance for Lawyers with Jeena Cho

Clio Cloud 2015: The Globalized Market of Legal Services

Michele DeStefano, professor of law from University of Miami and founder of LawWithoutWall, and Michael Mills, co-founder and chief strategy officer of Neota Logic, Inc. stop by to discuss technology and globalization as well as interstate business models and collaboration. Tune in to hear what both the American Bar Association and law schools can do to help lawyers keep up with future trends. Listen Here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Globalized Market of Legal Services

Clio Cloud 2015: Washington State’s Limited License Legal Technicians

Patrick Palace joins Bob Ambrogi for a conversation about the adoption of the Limited License Legal Technician Rule in Washington State. Together, they discuss licensing for LLLTs, how this program will address the justice gap, and opportunities for future collaboration. Listen Here: Clio Cloud 2015: Washington State’s Limited License Legal Technicians

We hope you found this series of podcast interviews covering the Clio Cloud Conference informative and entertaining. If you liked what you heard, you can find more like it on our Special Reports channel in iTunes, Stitcher, SoundCloud, and LegalTalkNetwork.

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