The ABA’s National Summit on Innovation in Legal Services

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Commission of Future of Legal ServicesCo-sponsored by the American Bar Association’s Presidential Commission on the Future of Legal Services and Stanford Law School, this national summit was designed to challenge thought leaders to find new ways to increase access to justice. Hosted by ABA President William Hubbard and co-chaired by the Honorable Jeremy Fogel and Professor Deborah Rhode, this invitation-only event featured some of the biggest names in law. From state supreme court justices and presidents of the NAACP to general counsels, founders and CEOs of major U.S. companies, there was much to learn and talk about.

ABA President William Hubbard

American Bar Association President William Hubbard

The speakers were well-prepared and the presentations, excellent. Although technology was addressed to solve many problems in the legal field, there was great focus on the gaps in justice. Whether it was the high cost of legal services, shocking statistics about pro-se clients, or disenfranchisement due to racism, what was learned was scary, necessary, and enlightening at the same time.

The following series of interviews recap many of the presentations made. Tune in to the hear some of the finest legal minds discuss issues like who is left behind in our legal system, the reluctance to innovate, and the importance of family and mentorship. Among the many who joined us on the air are, William Hubbard,
president of the ABA, Richard Barton, founder of Expedia, Mark Britton, founder and CEO of Avvo, and Chief Judge Ann Aiken of U.S. District Court for the District of Oregon.

Podcast Interviews

 

Interview with ABA President William Hubbard

President Hubbard discusses the National Summit on Innovation in Legal Services and how it’s addressing the lack of civil justice for 80-85% of the U.S. population through thought leadership from regulators, lawyers, judges, professors, and technologists. You can learn more here: President William Hubbard at the 2015 ABA National Summit.

‘Programs that Bridge the Gap’

These interviews feature Professor Andrew Perlman, Shantelle Argyle, Dwight Smith, Judge Laurie White, Terri Mascherin, Chief Judge Ann Aiken, and Steven Crossland discussing different programs that are helping bring the law and justice to those who can’t afford it or otherwise find themselves unable to access it.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Programs that Bridge the Gap’.

‘Focus on the Client’ Mini Presentations

These interviews feature Judge Lora Livingston from the 261st Civil District Court in Travis County, Texas, Joseph West from Minority Corporate Counsel Association, Eleanor Acer from Human Rights First, Judge Charles V. Harrington from Arizona Superior Court, Pima County, and Alex Gulotta from Bay Area Legal Aid. Together, they recap these Ted talk style presentations that address changes in the practice of law including improved access for immigrant minors, money generating corporate counsel, and how courts are using kiosks to provide better customer service to the public.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Focus on the Client’ Mini Presentations.

‘Challenges to Innovation’

These interviews feature Professor of Law Gillian Hadfield from University of Southern California, Professor Marshall Van Alstyne from Boston University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Mark Britton, the founder and CEO of Avvo. Together, they discuss the barriers to innovation in the legal profession as well as suggest ideas that could help practitioners provide better service to more people.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Challenges to Innovation’

‘Innovation Beyond the Legal Sphere’

Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews Judit Rius Sanjuan from Doctors Without Borders, Ron Dolin from Stanford Law’s Center on the Legal Profession, Denis Weil from Harvard University, and Professor Manny Medrano, broadcast journalist and adjunct law professor. Together, they review the panel discussion ‘Innovation Beyond the Legal Sphere’ which addressed how ideas from outside the legal profession could help bring greater access to law and justice. You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Innovation Beyond the Legal Sphere’.

A Legal Mentor with Judge Charles Harrington and Mark Britton

Fellow at CodeX Monica Bay interviews Judge Charles Harrington and Avvo CEO Mark Britton at the 2015 ABA National Summit on Innovation in Legal Services. As Britton’s uncle and mentor, Judge Harrington talks about the importance of giving advice to younger lawyers while Mark reflects on his support systems and discussing key decisions with family.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: A Legal Mentor with Judge Charles Harrington and Mark Britton.

Online Dispute Resolution with Richard Susskind

CodeX Fellow Monica Bay interviews keynote speaker Richard Susskind at the 2015 ABA National Summit on Innovation in Legal Services. Together, they discuss using technology for dispute resolution and containment. Tune in to hear his specific suggestions for a three-tiered system of internet resources for legal issues.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: Online Dispute Resolution with Richard Susskind.

‘Barton’s Laws of Disruption’

Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews Richard Barton, the founder of Expedia, Zillow, and Glassdoor. Together, they discuss how his laws of disruption apply to innovation in access to justice.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Barton’s Laws of Disruption’.

‘Innovations Within the Legal Sphere’

This interview features Professor Oliver Goodenough, Margaret Hagan, John Suh (CEO of LegalZoom), Lucy Bassli, and James Sandman, who were panelists on the ‘Innovations within the Legal Sphere’ speaking event at the ABA National Summit on Innovation in Legal Services. Together, they analyze the extent to which the legal system is not working for low income and middle class people plus what happens when the population feels disenfranchised by the legal system (like the Baltimore protests). You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Innovations Within the Legal Sphere’.

‘Reporting Out with Reaction’

Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews Jordan Furlong, Professor David Wilkins, and Professor Deborah Rhode who were panelists at the ‘Reporting Out with Reaction’ speaking event during the ABA National Summit on Innovation in Legal Services. Together, they discuss ideas like rethinking legal education, establishing different levels of legal representation, and non-lawyer third party ownership of legal service providers.  You can learn more at ABA National Summit: ‘Reporting Out with Reaction’.

Photos from the Event

ABA TECHSHOW 2015: Presentations and Speakers to Help Your Practice

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We recently traveled to Chicago for the annual ABA TECHSHOW. This year’s show was chaired by Brett Burney and brought with it many wonderful speakers and events. Legal Talk Network had the privilege of interviewing many of these presenters in an effort to bring a sample of it to you, our listeners.

ABA TECHSHOW 2015

ABA TECHSHOW Chair Brett Burney

For attendees, there are numerous opportunities to improve their law practice efficiencies and quality of service. With its multiple tracks of interest, attendees were free to pick and choose the events that would help their practices where they needed it most. Whether it was the Microsoft
Office, Paperless, and iPad tracks or the Cloud, Mac, and Mobile tracks, attendees learned new ways to save time, money, and energy in their daily practice life.

Whether you are a techno evangelist or novice, ABA TECHSHOW will offer new insight. With over a year of preparation for each show, the ABA TECHSHOW Planning Board hand picks speakers who can not only deliver breaking technology information during their presentations, but who also answer questions after. If there were one word to describe the relationship between presenter and attendee, it would be access.

Whether you are a techno evangelist or novice, ABA TECHSHOW will offer new insight. With over a year of preparation for each show, the ABA TECHSHOW Planning Board hand picks speakers who can not only deliver breaking technology information during their presentations, but who also answer questions after. If there were one word to describe the relationship between presenter and attendee, it would be access.

Judge Dixon, Jonathan Lomurro, and Bjorn Christensen

Left to Right: Jonathan Lomurro, Judge Herbert Dixon, and Bjorn Christensen

Listen to the Podcasts

Above The Law Converge, Breaking Media, and Thinking Like a Lawyer

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Legal Talk Network had the privilege of traveling to New York to cover the 2nd annual conference from Above The Law. Named Converge, the event was about privacy, reputation, communications strategies, and emerging tech trends in the legal industry. Despite its gravitation towards internet, new media, and technology, this energetic event found itself at the very formal and beautiful University Club where ties and jackets are required but mobile devices must be concealed.

ATL ConvergeThe list of speakers was impressive. To be sure, most had a background in law but even more significantly, they all shared three main characteristics: young, accomplished, and entrepreneurial.
Expertly placed into four main panels moderated by David Lat, Staci Zaretsky, Joe Patrice, and Elie Mystal (the editors from Above The Law), these speaking events exuded a wonderful energy that invited attendees to participate and learn more. Please listen to our series of interviews (below) which recap each speaking event through the voices of the speakers themselves.

  1. Above The Law Editors Discuss Converge Panels
  2. ATL Converge: Online Reputation, Privacy, and the Law
  3. ATL Converge: Pitching the Mainstream Media
  4. ATL Converge: Emerging Technical Trends
  5. ATL Converge: The Future of Law
  6. Are You Thinking Like A Lawyer Yet?
  7. What About Above the Law and Breaking Media?
  8. ATL Converge: Media Relations with Joshua Peck
  9. ATL Converge: Public Relations and Communication with John Hellerman
  10. ATL Converge: The Future of Legal Technology is Already Here
  11. ATL Converge: The Benefits of Procurement with Dr. Silvia Hodges Silverstein
  12. ATL Converge: Biglaw Business with Casey Sullivan
  13. ATL Converge: Online reputation Management with Tasha Cooper
Above The Law Editors

Above the Law editors Elie Mystal, Joe Patrice, David Lat, and Staci Zaretsky

In addition to covering Converge, we had the opportunity to pay a visit to Above The Law headquarters. Waiting for us was nearly the entire team from Breaking Media, and we got an inside look at the culture that produces some of today’s most dynamic journalism. For the benefit of those who didn’t know, Breaking Media is the entity that owns Above The Law among many other media outlets. The predominant goal with Above The Law, like with the other brands, is to write about an industry in ways that haven’t been done before.

Thinking Like a LawyerAnd finally, it gives us great pleasure to announce that we launched a new podcast in conjunction with Above The Law, featuring editors Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice as the hosts. The new show is called Thinking Like a Lawyer, and it focuses on daily life happenings as viewed through the eyes of a lawyer. In it, verbal jousting between Elie and Joe drives the discussion forward. They call it bantering, but we call it good chemistry. To listen to what we’re talking about, tune into Thinking Like a Lawyer.

ABA Midyear Meeting: Highlights and Interviews

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The American Bar Association includes an impressive number of committees, divisions, and sections all aimed at providing the best resources to its members. We were able to sit down with various leaders within the organization to learn more about what programs are out there, how they are of benefit, and what their plans are for the future.

These 32 conversations provide incredible insight into the opportunities available within the ABA. Listen now to hear how these divisions and committees can help you, and hear it directly from the leaders.

American Bar Association President William C. Hubbard

Hubbard discusses current and future ABA involvement with legal representation concerns in the areas of unaccompanied minor immigration, domestic violence, and criminal justice. Listen now: American Bar Association President William C. Hubbard

_William Hubbard and Sharon Nelson

Additional Interviews

Below are the interviews with various department, committee, and division leaders within the ABA.

In addition to event coverage, the ABA promises monthly episodes discussing the latest from top legal authors and experts on ABA Journal: Asked and Answered and ABA Journal: Modern Law Library. For immediate updates, sign up for email notifications or subscribe on iTunes.

Photos from the ABA Midyear Meeting

Trish Refo discusses the House of Delegates

Trish Refo and Jim Calloway discuss the House of Delegates

Aaron Sohaski discusses the Law Student Division

Aaron Sohaski discusses the Law Student Division

Judge Waxse discusses the Judicial Division

Judge Waxse discusses the Judicial Division

Rew Goodenow sharing details about the National Conference of Bar Presidents

Rew Goodenow sharing details about the National Conference of Bar Presidents

Discussing Law Firm Advertising with Micah Buchdahl

Discussing Law Firm Advertising with Micah Buchdahl

Andrew Schpak and Lacy Durham discuss the Young Lawyers Division

Andrew Schpak and Lacy Durham discuss the Young Lawyers Division

Lisa Dunner gets ready to discuss The Section of Intellectual Property Law

Lisa Dunner gets ready to discuss The Section of Intellectual Property Law

Larry Gill, Kristine Gregorio, Lee Swanson, and Kate Noble discuss ABA Leisure

Larry Gill, Kristine Gregorio, Lee Swanson, and Kate Noble discuss ABA Leisure

Michael Drumke shares his expertise on Tort Trial and Insurance Practice Section

Michael Drumke shares his expertise on Tort Trial and Insurance Practice Section

Bob Young discussing the Law Practice Division

Bob Young discussing the Law Practice Division

Amy Lin Meyerson and Stephen Rosales discuss Solo, Small Firm, and General Practice Division

Amy Lin Meyerson and Stephen Rosales discuss Solo, Small Firm, and General Practice Division

Zoe Linza on the National Association of Bar Executives

Zoe Linza on the National Association of Bar Executives

A TECHSHOW Appathon with Rodney Dowell and Adriana Linares

A TECHSHOW Appathon with Rodney Dowell and Adriana Linares

‘Serial’ Podcast Poll: Do You Think Adnan Syed is Guilty?

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adnan-syed-serial-podcastIf you’ve been following the Serial Podcast then you’re probably familiar with the case of Adnan Syed and his convicted murder of ex-girlfriend Hae Min Lee in late 90s Baltimore. The case has baffled the millions of listeners who tuned in for the first season of ‘Serial’, which investigated the case week by week. With no resolution in the final episode and the recent granting of Adnan Syed’s request for review of his murder conviction by the Maryland Court of Special Appeals, many people are still unsure of whether or not he actually did it.

Do you think Adnan is guilty of murdering Hae Min Lee beyond a reasonable doubt?

Vote in the poll below and share your opinions on Adnan’s guilt, the involvement of Jay Wilds, and what you think about Adnan’s attorney Cristina Gutierezz’s defense strategy.


On a very special and exciting episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Bob Ambrogi and J Craig Williams were joined by Deirdre Enright of The Innocence Project, who is currently working on Adnan’s appeal (and was featured on episodes 7 and 12 of ‘Serial’), Erica Zunkel,clinical instructor at the Federal Criminal Justice Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School and a former trial attorney with a focus on defense, and Markus Kypreos, a practicing attorney who has previously worked with the Texas Prosecutors Association. to break down the case and what was presented on ‘Serial’.

Listen Now! Attorneys Dissect Adnan Syed’s Case


The attorneys analyzed the case against Adnan from both sides, offering expert insight on criminal defense and prosecution, the testimony of Jay Wilds, and the portrayal of this case on Serial, all while tackling some of the tougher questions raised regarding DNA evidence, potential alibis, shaky timelines, and the overall defense strategy.

Comments on the defense

  • Cristina Gutierezz should have discontinued representation if health impaired her ability to do her job
  • There was no clear, outlined defense strategy that was communicated that to the client
  • Expert witnesses should have been hired to challenge cell phone records
  • Physical evidence should have been pursued and tested, including the hair found on Hae Min Lee’s body, the rope, and the liquor bottle found near her body
  • Asia McClain’s potential alibi for Adnan Syed should have been pursued
  • The defense should have investigated whether key witness Jay Wilds was guided to point to Adnan Syed as the primary suspect as a way to avoid jail time
  • Statements pointing to Adnan Syed’s religious background as motive should have been addressed and discounted as an attempted substitute for evidence
  • Jurors were not provided with a clear and understandable narrative
  • The tone and demeanor of the defense attorney when cross-examining Jay Wilds ultimately made the jury more sympathetic to Jay than to Adnan

Comments on the prosecution

  • The case and details presented on ‘Serial’ may not have been the same as what was presented by the prosecutors to the jury at trial
  • Regardless of the inconsistencies in Jay’s testimony, general lack of likeability, and clear involvement, the jury heard his testimony and determined that it was credible
  • This was an open crime scene in a public park where humans and animals traversed through before the body was found
  • While objects found near the body can be tested, it’s important to consider what will be determined to be exculpatory and relevant to the case and victim
  • The rope and the hairs should be tested, but other elements like the bottle found near the body may not be relevant

Stay tuned for the results of the poll!

The Florida Bar Podcast Covers the 2015 Winter Meeting

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In order to connect with members more effectively, the Florida Bar recently partnered with Legal Talk Network to produce a podcast, making education and information more readily available to their membership.

The podcast was launched at the 2015 Florida Bar Winter Meeting, and host Adriana Linares and members of the production team were there to cover the event. At the show, Linares was able to sit down with speakers and leaders within the organization to discuss Continuing Legal Education (CLE) sessions and what members can expect from the Florida Bar in the coming year.

Recording at the Florida Bar

Member Benefits Committee Chair Peter Sweeney, Leadership Academy Committee member Sean Desmond, Young Lawyers Division Representative Jennifer Kuyrkendall, and many others sat down with us to discuss the conference. You can listen to the full interviews below.

Interviews from the 2015 Florida Bar Winter Meeting:

In addition to event coverage, the Florida Bar Podcast promises monthly episodes discussing information, events, and education that is most pertinent to the membership. For immediate updates, sign up for email notifications and select the Florida Bar Podcast, or subscribe on iTunes.

Legal Talk Network Recording

The Winter Meeting was a great success for the Florida Bar as well as for attending members! We had a great time recording, networking with the membership, and learning about the latest in Florida Law.

Photos from the 2015 Winter Meeting

Legal Talk Network Producer Laurence Colletti and Florida Bar President Craig Ball discuss member benefits and the Practice Resource Institute

Legal Talk Network Producer Laurence Colletti and Craig Ball discuss electronic evidence and what’s changing

Ethan Wall and Adriana Linares get ready to discuss smart social media use

Ethan Wall and Adriana Linares get ready to discuss smart social media use

Florida Bar President Gregory Coleman and Adriana Linares record the next monthly episode live from the conference.

Florida Bar President Gregory Coleman and Adriana Linares record the next monthly episode live from the conference.

John Stewart shares some details on what to expect from the next technology conference

John Stewart shares some details on what to expect from the next technology conference

Joseph Corsmeier shares his perspective on legal technology and ethics

Joseph Corsmeier shares his perspective on legal technology and ethics

Lanse Scriven, John Stewart, and Adriana Linares sit down for a quick interview

Lanse Scriven, John Stewart, and Adriana Linares sit down for a quick interview

Liz McCausland, Melanie Griffin, Barbara Leach, and Renee Thompson join Adriana Linares for a discussion on balancing career against bar involvement

Liz McCausland, Melanie Griffin, Barbara Leach, and Renee Thompson join Adriana Linares for a discussion on balancing career against bar involvement

Michelle Suskauer pops by to discuss disciplinary reviews

Michelle Suskauer pops by to discuss disciplinary reviews

Peter Sweeney digs into member benefits and technology

Peter Sweeney digs into member benefits and technology

Sean Desmond and Renee Thompson sharing details  on upcoming meetings and leadership

Sean Desmond and Renee Thompson sharing details on upcoming meetings and leadership

Also from The Florida Bar Podcast

In the most recent episode of The Florida Bar Podcast, Florida Bar President Greg Coleman sat down with Linares to discuss the Practice Resource Institute, June’s upcoming cloud conference, and member benefits. You can listen to the episode here: President Greg Coleman on the PRI, Member Benefits, and the Upcoming Cloud Conference.

Subscribe to The Florida Bar Podcast

For immediate updates, sign up for email notifications and select the Florida Bar Podcast, or subscribe on iTunes.

Interviews from the ABA Law Practice Division Fall Meeting 2014

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We recently had the privilege of attending the American Bar Association’s Law Practice Division Fall Meeting, which was held this year in San Diego. Totally forgetting about the beautiful sites and scenes from Southern California, we were very impressed at the many programs being offered and projects undertaken by the Law Practice Division. Not only do they put on their large annual ABA TECHSHOW each year, but they publish their monthly Law Practice Today webzine to their nearly 400,000 subscribers each month.

In addition to the highly visible initiatives, Law Practice Division does a lot behind the scenes as well. From access to justice issues to their diversity and inclusion programs, this division of the ABA is hard at work making sure our legal system benefits everyone. Even groups like the ABA Women Rainmakers Board make sure to have programs and events that are inclusive of men. For those new to the practice of law (regardless of age), there is the ABA Young Lawyers Division. Not only are they great resources during the job search, but they are also a great place for referrals.

When they are not focusing on social justice, the Law Practice Division tirelessly endeavors to modernize the practice of law with Board groups like the ABA Legal Technology Resource Center (LTRC for short). Through the production of their Blog, Webinars, Buyers Guide, and Legal Technology Survey, the LTRC makes sure that the most up-to-date technology information is available to lawyers everywhere.

Perhaps the most impressive part of the ABA Law Practice Division is the people who volunteer to make all of this happen. It might surprise you that in addition to the great programs they put on, most of the central leadership is fully employed somewhere else. Whether it is the Law Practice Division’s Chair Robert Young from English Lucas Priest & Owsley LLP, Chair-Elect Tom Bolt from BoltNagi PC, or even ABA President-Elect Paulette Brown from Edwards Wildman, these highly qualified volunteers brings decades of law practice experience to the table that they readily share with their 18,000+ members (and non-members as well).

We had the privilege of interviewing various speakers and individuals involved with the 2014 ABA Law Practice Division Fall Meeting. Take a listen to the interviews below for more details from the conference.

Highlights and Interviews From the 2014 Workers Injury Law and Advocacy Group Conference

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The 2014 Workers Injury Law and Advocacy Group (WILG) conference at the Bacara Resort in Santa Barbara, California was a central event during pivotal times for workers’ compensation lawyers. The tenor of tones seems to indicate that change is coming and that such change will be sweeping. As outgoing President of WILG Chuck Davoli stated during his interview with Alan Pierce (host of Workers Comp Matters), “It’s not a matter of if change is coming, it’s a matter of how much and from where.” His further remarks discussed implications from the Affordable Care Act as well as the rising nation-wide prominence of pro-business interests.

Alan Pierce and one of our producers took the time to sit down with some of the speakers to capture what was most important from the conference. From Lewis Heller’s concise interview on the history of workers’ compensation law to keynote speaker Jason Schechterle’s story of surviving an incident in which his police car was hit by another vehicle going 100 miles per hour, there is something for everybody.

For a complete list of interviews, see below.

Among the many shared concerns for this group of mostly plaintiff’s attorneys are the reduction of no-fault coverage for employees hurt on the job, unification of insurance policies under both A.C.A. and existing workers’ compensation structures, and combination of legislative actions and court decisions stemming from Florida (often referred to as the “Tipping Point”). For those interested in this area of law, the WILG Conference was an ideal event to attend. Not only did attendees have access to industry leaders such as incoming WILG President Michael Galpern, who measures his experience in decades rather than years, but they were also the benefactor of a helpful staff and speakers on pressing issues.

Interviews with Speakers and Attendees of the 2014 Clio Cloud Conference

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In late September we had the privilege of attending the 2014 Clio Could Conference (#ClioCloud9) in Chicago. This was a great opportunity for our hosts to mingle with some of the key leaders within the legal industry, and also gave hosts and producers a chance to interview some of the big speakers at the event.

Bob Ambrogi, co-host of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, kicked off our interview sessions by speaking with Jack Newton, CEO of Clio. Keynote speaker Richard Susskind discusses his presentation, and other interviewees offered their expertise on topics like data collection, customer service, social media, generational differences, digital marketing, culture, and the latest in legal technology trends. Here is a complete list of the interviews:

These experts give some great insights into the state of technology in law, as well as tips for how lawyers can adapt and what to look for in the future.

Special thanks to Clio for hosting a great event and for their continued support as a sponsor of Lawyer 2 Lawyer! To learn more about Clio and the latest technology trends, listen to Gone Clio.

Highlights from LegalTech West Coast 2014

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This was the last time LegalTech West Coast will be held in Los Angeles, California as the conference moves north to San Francisco next year. In its farewell performance at the Westin Bonaventure Hotel, LegalTech offered high-powered speakers, Westin HotelThe Track: (Exploring the New Legal Ecosystem), and innovative new exhibitors.

Editor-in-Chief Monica Bay (ALM’s Law Technology News) took great care not only to find amazing speakers, she also moderated many of the speaking events herself. As a result, the events stayed on-point and audience questions got answered. Her energy and presence brings great connectivity to this conference and attendees walk away feeling very welcome and informed.

Legal Talk Network Producer Laurence Colletti had the privilege of interviewing many of the speakers during the course of the event and the main take away was just how high the bar had been set. With speakers from some of the IMG_0539largest companies (Microsoft, Motorola, & Kia Motors) and most influential law firms (McKenna, Long & Aldridge LLP, Edwards Wildman Palmer LLP, & Baker & Hostetler LLP), this conference offered deep expertise and instruction. The same standard carried forward with other notable mentions such as Jay Mandel (Rocket Lawyer), Alex Ponce de Leon (Intel Corporation) and Amy Jane Longo (US Securities & Exchange Commission). No matter which speaking event, attendees were surely in for a treat.

 

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