If you listen to podcasts, you’ve probably heard of the hit series called Serial. Centering around the trail of Adnan Syed, a Baltimore teenager convicted of murdering ex-girlfriend Hae Min Lee, the show offers a deep look into Adnan’s trial and the criminal justice system. To date, the podcast has been downloaded over 68 million times, reached #1 on iTunes, and is now regarded as one of the most popular podcasts in history. From the investigation to the trial and ultimately the conviction, host and executive producer Sarah Koenig carefully guides listeners through events leading up to the conviction of Adnan Syed, who has been serving a life sentence since 1999. With investigative reporting, superb storytelling, and interviews with the people involved in the trial and Adnan’s life, Koenig delivers granular details and analysis that call into question the court’s decision, leaving listeners baffled as they tried to decide whether or not he actually did it.
On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, hosts Bob Ambrogi and J. Craig Williams discuss Serial and the case it made famous with three attorneys: Director of Investigation for University of Virginia School of Law’s Innocence Project Clinic Deirdre Enright, featured on episodes 7 and 12 of Serial and currently working on Adnan’s appeal, Erica Zunkel from the Federal Criminal Justice Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School, and Markus Kypreos from the Fort Worth civil litigation firm Pennington Hill. Together, they analyze the case against Adnan from both sides, offering expert insight on criminal defense and prosecution, the testimony of Jay Wilds, and the portrayal of this case on Serial, all while tackling some of the tougher questions raised regarding DNA evidence, potential alibis, shaky timelines, and the overall defense strategy.
If Serial left you with unanswered questions about whether Adnan really did kill Hae Min Lee, why Jay’s inconsistent testimony was still considered credible, or how anyone could even question his guilt, tune in for a unique perspective on the legal elements involved in this case. Hear what legal experts have to say about these questions and whether this type of in-depth look at a murder case is good for the criminal justice system on this very exciting episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer.
Where do you stand? Do you think Adnan Syed is guilty of murder?
Professor Deirdre Enright was featured on episodes 7 and 12 of the Serial Podcast series when her Innocence Project Clinic from the University of Virginia School of Law helped investigate Adnan’s case (She is the Director). Prior to her time at the university, Deirdre worked at the Virginia Capital Representation Resource Center, where she represented clients and consulted on cases in all stages of capital litigation, with primary focus on federal and state post-conviction proceedings and Supreme Court certiorari.
Erica Zunkel is a clinical instructor in the Federal Criminal Justice Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School. Prior to that, she was a trial attorney at the Federal Defenders of San Diego, Inc. for over six years where she represented indigent defendants accused of federal felony offenses to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and the United States Supreme Court. Recently, and germane to this episode, she was featured in a Marshall Project article weighing in on Adnan’s guilt or innocence based on what she heard on Serial.
Markus Kypreos is currently partner for Pennington Hill, a civil litigation firm in Fort Worth, Texas. Prior to that he worked for the Texas Prosecutors Association in Austin, Texas, where he assisted prosecutors with complex criminal procedure issues. Mr. Kypreos was also featured in the Marshall Project article and weighed in on Adnan’s guilt or innocence.
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