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An Open Letter to Our Listeners, Sponsors, Hosts, and Guests


Dear Listeners, Sponsors, Hosts and Guests,

Legal Talk NetworkFor my last blog entry of 2015, I want to thank everyone who’s made this a superb year in podcasting. During the course of the year we traveled all over the country, met lots of wonderful people, and watched our listener base grow. We are so grateful for the amazing times and experiences shared. From the sleepless streets of New York City and beaches of Boca Raton to the Magnificent Mile of Chicago and “Western Ivy” of Stanford, it’s been quite an adventure both in and out of the studio!

First of all, thank you to our growing listener base. Without you there’s no network and that means no fun! We appreciate your continued support and promise to work tirelessly to bring you the most informative and hopefully entertaining podcasts in legal.

Also, thank you to our guests. We look forward to the continued listens of your past episodes as well as future collaborations on new projects.

And, of course, a special thank you to our sponsors for all of their support. We appreciate your continued belief in our productions and look forward to another year of working with you.

(Enter Stage Left: Sappy Sentiment and Inside Jokery) Thank you to our hosts. The airwaves would be empty and boring without you! We are looking forward to future recordings and meeting your new guests. Special shout outs for the following:  

  • Adriana Linares, a.k.a. our Ringer from Florida who hosts New Solo and The Florida Bar Podcast. We love traveling with you and your hilarious laughter. Please send good vibes to Grandpa Marsh!
  • Stephanie Francis Ward and Lee Rawles, our esteemed ABA Journalists. We enjoy your professionalism and on-point interview style. Please wish Allen, Molly, Reg, Victor, Terry, and Jonathan a happy new year for us!
  • Fabiani Duarte and Madison Burke from ABA Law Student Podcast. Your energy and spirit are infectious. Great work launching your new show! Thank you Austin and thank you Adam for all of your help!
  • Joe Patrice and Elie Mystal from Above the Law’s Thinking Like a Lawyer. You crack us up with your gear-grinding rants and off-the-cuff commentary. Please tell David, Jon, Hsiaolei, Staci, Laura, Kathryn, Lauren, and, yes, Brutus that we miss them!
  • John Czuba from AM Best. We are just getting to know you, but so far so good. Please wish Jennifer Fink a happy new year for us!  🙂
  • John Simek and Sharon Nelson, our Digital Detectives. You are always poised and ready with top-notch Q&A, setting a very high bar for Vulcans universe-wide!
  • Jim Calloway, a.k.a. the Okie Thunder from the Digital Edge. You blow our mics up with your mad knowledge on legal technology. Happy trails cowboy!
  • Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell, from the Kennedy-Mighell Report. We just can’t get enough of your back-and-forth agree-to-disagrees. Wishing you and yours a most happy new year!
  • Randy Milch from In-House Legal, a New York gent doing it his way with swagger to spare! Please give our best regards to the missus and family!
  • Bob Ambrogi and J. Craig Williams from Lawyer 2 Lawyer. Congratulations on 10 years of podcasting excellence! Time to break out your Red Sox and scuba gear!
  • Jared Correia and Heidi Alexander from the Legal Toolkit and Lunch Hour Legal Marketing. Together, you stylishly spin laughter and obscure Warren Zevon lyrics into practice wisdom. #SummerOfLunch.
  • Vicki Voisin from the Paralegal Voice. You’re our paralegal hostess with the mostest. Please give our best to the Don!
  • Larry Cohen from Ringler Radio. Thank you for another great year of working together! Please give Lu Ann, Kate, and Mike our best!
  • Chad Volkert from the Robert Half Legal Report. Always bringing great information on a great show! Please let Lisa Hamilton know we miss her!
  • Christopher Anderson from the Un-Billable Hour. Your killer content is as unstoppable as his running regimen. Thank you for the inspiration!
  • Alan Pierce from Workers Comp Matters. Thank you for another great year and congratulations on your recent election to the presidency of WILG!

And last but certainly not least, thank you to my co-workers. Being part of our team is quite a privilege. To our CEO, Adam Camras, thank you for not judging my moldy old computer bag and constantly recommending the Waze travel app. To our CTO, Trent Carlyle, thank you for creating new and dangerous games involving office furniture. To Kimberly Faber, thank you for not killing me despite my Overcapitalization Of Everything. And finally, to Kelsey Johnson, thank you for showing me how to use the coffee pot and your snarky repertoire.

In case you are just catching up with us, below are links to our blog entries featuring our travel adventures and special events. Each post showcases thought leaders in law sharing their valuable experiences with our listeners. Among the many interviewees are mayors, state representatives and senators, presidents and leaders at the American Bar Association,  judges from the federal and state court systems, professors at top U.S. law schools, presidents and practice management advisors from the various state bars, general counsels and executives from major U.S. companies, journalists and editors from major legal publications, and top legal bloggers, podcasters, and authors.

 Our 2015 Adventures in Podcasting:

(Exit Stage Right: Looking forward to 2016) Again, 2015 was such an amazing year in podcasting. Thank you to everyone who played a part and special thanks once again to our listeners all over the world. Next year will see many new shows added to the network. In addition, we are looking forward to adding new team members as we boost our quality and reach. Have a wonderful New Year’s Eve!!!

Kindest Regards,

Laurence Colletti
Producer – Legal Talk Network


Our 21 Most Popular Podcasts of 2015


by Kelsey Johnson

Legal Talk Network Microphones 300pxAs listeners may or may not know, Legal Talk Network produces and publishes over 15 podcasts and provides exclusive interviews from legal conferences throughout the year. In 2015, we covered a variety of issues important to lawyers, law firm employees, and law students including topics like legal technology, best firm practices, finding the right job, and much, much more.

Because I listen to all of our podcasts, I know my favorites, but our listeners are the ones who really matter. For that reason, I have listed the episode of each podcast that was most downloaded and listened to in the car, at the gym, or wherever you decided to consume our legal content this year. From our attorney analysis of the Serial case to the ethical duty of tech competence, here are our Top 21 Podcasts of 2015!

So take a look and maybe try out a new podcast. Maybe you’ll remember a particularly useful episode that you want to revisit or you’ll discover an entirely new set of quirky hosts. If you do, let us know in the comments or on Twitter using the hashtag #LegalTalk2015!

1. Lawyer 2 Lawyer

Breaking Down The Serial Podcast – Attorneys Dissect Adnan Syed’s Case

Bob Ambrogi and J. Craig Williams discuss Serial and the case it made famous with three attorneys.

2. ABA Journal: Asked and Answered

How can attorneys get help without harming their careers?

What are your ethical duties if you know that a colleague is battling an addiction or suffering from mental health problems?

3. ABA Journal: Modern Law Library

Grammar nerds, meet your Comma Queen

Mary Norris,a copy editor for the New Yorker since 1978, discusses lawyers’ affinity for language and the behind-the-scenes challenges involved in magazine editing.

4. ABA Law Student Podcast

Senator Lindsey Graham on Getting Through Law School and Being a Lawyer

Senator Lindsey Graham discusses getting through law school, being an advocate, and public service loan forgiveness.

5. Thinking Like a Lawyer – Above the Law

Legal Feud

Above the Law editors Joe Patrice and Elie Mystal face off in a trivia challenge. Do you know your constitutional amendments? How about your Supreme Court history? Play along at home.

6. Digital Detectives

Forensic Science in the Criminal Justice System: What is Admissible?

Judge David Waxse discusses the relationship between bad science and wrongful convictions and how we can improve the use of forensic science in the criminal justice system.

7. In-House Legal

Skills for Success as a General Counsel

Mark Roellig, General Counsel of MassMutual, is interviewed about the skills lawyers need to go in-house or become a general counsel, how to properly manage an in-house team of attorneys, and why diversity is important in business.

8. New Solo

How David Sparks Started His Solo Practice

David Sparks talks about why he decided to go solo, the first actions he took, and struggles he encountered during the process.

9. Special Reports

2015 ABA TECHSHOW: The Ethical Duty of Technological Competence with Andrew Perlman

Andrew Perlman discusses how the lawyer’s ethical duty of competence is evolving and what level of technological proficiency is reasonably expected today.

10. The Digital Edge

Speech Recognition and Dictation Solutions for Today’s Lawyer

Britt Lorish talks about speech recognition and dictation solutions, added benefits of current dictation software, common misconceptions about Dragon NaturallySpeaking, and the best microphones and apps to consider.

11. The Florida Bar Podcast

Admission on Motion, Reciprocity, the UBE, and Non-Lawyer Licensing

Lawyer and chair of The Florida Bar Admissions Committee Lance Scriven talks about the pros and cons of Admission on Motion, the Uniform Bar Examination, and non-lawyer legal professional licensing.

12. The Kennedy-Mighell Report

How A Lawyer Can Control Their To-Do List With Task Managers and Technology

Dennis Kennedy and Tom Mighell discuss taming the to-do list, their own approaches to using technology to help with task management, and questions every lawyer should ask when looking for a management tool to suit their needs.

13. The Legal Toolkit

What Does the 21st Century Legal Career Look Like?

Alison Monahan and Lee Burgess, founders of the online resource Trebuchet Legal, examine the steps to creating an alternative legal career path and give suggestions to what students should be doing in law school to prepare for the future.

14. The Paralegal Voice

Paralegal Education and Landing a Job

Many paralegals have problems getting a job with no experience but can’t get experience without having a job. This is one of the worst paradoxes in the field. Tune in for tips from Madonna University paralegal professor Mary Meinzinger Urisko, J.D.

15. The Un-Billable Hour

Law Firm Leadership: Build Your A Team

Broel Law Group founder Erik Broel analyzes what it means to build an “A Team,” how attorneys should hire and train their staff, and the underlying qualities of becoming a successful leader.

16. Workers Comp Matters

Chronic Pain, Opioid Addiction, and Injured Workers

Dr. Joel Morton takes a look at the association between chronic pain and opioid addiction and talks about alternative treatments to long-term opioid prescription.

17. Lunch Hour Legal Marketing

The 21st Century Lawyer: Utilizing Technology Competency as a Marketing Tool

An overview of the new skills and competencies that lawyers should have today that they did not need only 20 or 25 years ago, especially with regard to the use of technology.

18. Ringler Radio

Spotlight on a New, Non-Traditional “Structured Settlement” Product

A spotlight on Havelet Assignment Company and their new non-traditional ‘Fixed Annuity Product,’ called Havelet Fixed.

19. Robert Half Legal Report

Making Succession Planning an Ongoing Priority

An examination of the importance of succession planning and why it is imperative to the future viability of law firms.

20. The ESI Report

2015 Trade Shows and Trends in E-Discovery

Two experts in the e-discovery field, Eric Robinson and James Sherer, discuss their main takeaways from the Jolt Symposium and Legaltech New York and how current trends could affect the day-to-day jobs of e-discovery professionals.

21. The Insurance Law Podcast

Attorney Discusses Landmark New York Case Pertaining to Legal Malpractice Claims

Attorney Anthony Grande discusses a controversial case recently decided by the New York Court of Appeals pertaining to legal malpractice claims.

Cloudy with a Chance of #Growth


by Laurence Colletti

ClioAfter returning from the Clio Cloud Conference in Chicago, Illinois, we had much to do and lots to think about. All in all we captured 15 interviews with about half in panel format. In a whirlwind of edits, titles, and descriptions, it took me a while to process what we’d seen. I read the tweets of others, conversed prolifically at social events, and consulted the blog of Legal Talk Network host Bob Ambrogi. What came into focus was subtle, at least at first.

To date, most of the legal conferences we’ve attended have been about access to justice, lack of technology in the legal profession, and the future of law. What hasn’t been present—unless I missed something—was real talk about growth. Sure, most of us have encountered presentations and platforms that delve into productivity and efficiency, which are pathways to growth, but I am talking about real growth as opposed to doing more with less.

Perhaps it’s the third cup of coffee talking, but I noticed a whisper of something new in the Windy City. Attendees were past the point of mulling over the problems and uncertainty with the legal profession. It was like the tide rolled out revealing a paradigm of yep… we are here, but that’s where we’re going. It seemed that the time for asking questions and making calculations was giving way to action.

For me, this whisper started with Jack Newton’s interview about his keynote address. In it, we talked about the growth of his company and the need to provide effortless service where clients are collaborators and friction points are reduced. Client loyalty is not built upon providing delight, rather it’s about making the service as effortless and pain-free as possible. This, Jack believes, is what clients are looking for, and those lawyers that are able to provide it will be rewarded by new and repeat business.

Jack’s point was reinforced when we interviewed Professor David Wilkins from Harvard Law School. Professor Wilkins shared with us a story about his ill-fated Mac computer that suffered death-by-beverage. When he ultimately replaced his machine, he was pleased to discover that the new one was faster, better, and cheaper. He furthered that consumers are increasingly expecting this with everything they buy, because they have more information at their fingertips than ever before. Sounds great, but there’s a limit on this “more-for-less” when you expect to grow. According to Professor Wilkins, collaboration is the key. By that he means collaboration with other lawyers and clients—emphasis on clients. Lawyers that are able to collaborate will find new ways to increase their value, decrease expense to clients, and, yes, grow their practice.

Building upon the points made by Jack and Professor Wilkins are remarks by Legalzoom CEO John Suh. After an extended Q&A session following his keynote, John was gracious enough to join us for a late afternoon interview. During our time together, we talked about the two most efficient types of law firm from the perspective of billable hours: big law firms and firms of 11-20 attorneys.

Using that as a basis for comparison to smaller firms, John’s analysis reveals that solos and small firms have a lot of untapped billable potential and produce specialists at a much slower rate. From that perspective, growth opportunities are more limited for the vast majority of practitioners, but there’s hope. John shared some of the lessons he learned at the helm of Legalzoom. First, a big firm model is not ideal for every client. This is especially true in terms of their relatively high attorney’s fees. Second, by using modern day platforms for acquiring clients, lawyers can create sustainable growth in their practice by adhering to three principles: transparency, streamlining, and accountability.

By way of transparency, John recommends setting clear expectations when it comes to cost. Even if an exact figure cannot be reached, you should go over what drives expense, provide best estimations, and give a rough idea of how long a matter will take. As for streamlining, John refers to communication. When explaining concepts to clients, lawyers should curb the desire to use legalease and invest more thought into writing simply and speaking plainly. And finally, there’s accountability by participating in online reviews. Attorneys that brave both the good and the bad reviews are building public trust with potential clients. That trust is valuable currency in the brave new world of providing legal services.

These are but a few of the many growth ideas discussed at the Clio Cloud Conference. If you are looking to expand your firm and improve your deliverables as an attorney, you should definitely listen to our collection of interviews—listed below. This collection of recordings feature many thought provoking conversations with industry thought leaders like:  

Special Reports from the Event:

You can also download and listen to all of these interviews on your mobile device here: Special Reports in iTunes.

Clio Cloud 2015: Effortless Services with Clio CEO Jack Newton

Clio Co-Founder and CEO Jack Newton sits down to talk about effortless services, the educational tracks at Clio Cloud Conference, and new features within the Clio platform designed to help lawyers grow their practices. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Effortless Services with Clio CEO Jack Newton

Clio Cloud 2015: Democratization of Law with Legalzoom CEO John Suh

Legalzoom CEO John Suh stops by to talk about efficient law firm models and three principles of growth for solos and small firms. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Democratization of Law with Legalzoom CEO John Suh

Clio Cloud 2015: The Global Age of More for Less with Professor David Wilkins

Professor David Wilkins of Harvard Law School joins us to discuss ‘The Global Age of More for Less’ which includes growth topics about globalization, speed of technology, and changing client preferences. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Global Age of More for Less with Professor David Wilkins

Clio Cloud 2015: The Supreme Court’s Bubble with Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick

Dahlia Lithwick, senior editor at Slate, stops by to talk about her beat covering the Supreme Court, predictions for the upcoming SCOTUS session, and the types of lawyers that can make it all the way to our highest court. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Supreme Court’s Bubble with Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick

Clio Cloud 2015: Knowledge Management with Connie Crosby

Connie Crosby, a knowledge management consultant, sits down to discuss the importance of managing legacy knowledge within law firms to make sure it’s stored and protected against loss in the event of employee turnover and death. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Knowledge Management with Connie Crosby

Clio Cloud 2015: Leveraging APIs for Better Practice Management

Dan Lear, Avvo’s director of industry relations; Debbie Mignola, founder and CEO of Intake 123; and practicing attorney Sam Redlich join host Adriana Linares to discuss leveraging APIs for better practicing management. If you use multiple software platforms during your day, you should tune in to hear about ways to use them more efficiently. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Leveraging APIs for Better Practice Management

Clio Cloud 2015: Professionalism as a Survival Strategy with Jayne Reardon

Jayne Reardon, executive director of the Commission on Professionalism to the Illinois Supreme Court, stops by to talk about ABA Model Rules, possible changes thereof, and alternative business structures in law firms. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Professionalism as a Survival Strategy with Jayne Reardon

Clio Cloud 2015: A Fireside Legal Chat about Outsourcing and Project Management

Basha Rubin, co-founder and CEO of Priori Legal, Mirra Levitt, co-founder and general counsel for Priori Legal, and Agile Certified Scrum Master John E. Grant stop by to talk about outsourcing, lean/agile principles, and where clients are looking for lawyers. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: A Fireside Legal Chat about Outsourcing and Project Management

Clio Cloud 2015: The Experts Discuss Online Marketing Strategies for Law Firms

Gyi Tsakalakis, founder of AttorneySync, Eva Hibnick, co-founder of One400, and Allen Rodriguez, co-founder of One400, catch up with hosts Adriana Linares and Jason Marsh to discuss local search, reviews, experiential marketing, and much, much more. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Experts Discuss Online Marketing Strategies for Law Firms

Clio Cloud 2015: Innovational Law Practices and Lasting Digital Brands

Peter Carayiannis, founder of Conduit Law, David Sparks, co-host of Mac Power Users Podcast, Shantelle Argyle, co-founder of Open Legal Services, and Julie Tolek, founder of Think Pink Law, sit down to talk about efficiency tools like Slack, Sanebox, and Lexicata as well as the three P’s of building digital brands: passion, personality, and persuasion. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Innovational Law Practices and Lasting Digital Brands

Clio Cloud 2015: Technology Trends and Firm Performance

Billie Tarascio, family law lawyer and entrepreneur, Mary Juetten, founder and CEO of Traklight, and Duncan Stewart, director of TMT research for Deloitte Canada, sit down to discuss measuring law firm business performance and predictions for communicating with clients in the future: Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Technology Trends and Firm Performance

Clio Cloud 2015: Applied Lessons from Modern Data Operations

Fraser Newton, Clio’s lead scientist, and George Psiharis, Clio’s vice president of Business Development, stop by to talk about what law firms can learn from their sales team in the form of key performance indicators. If you are interested in growing your legal practice, you should definitely tune in. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Applied Lessons from Modern Data Operations

Clio Cloud 2015: Work-Life Balance for Lawyers with Jeena Cho

Attorney, author, and mindfulness teacher Jeena Cho joins us for a discussion about work-life balance and to perform a two minute guided meditation on the air. Tune in to hear how she overcame burnout to live a happier healthier life. Listen here: Clio Cloud 2015: Work-Life Balance for Lawyers with Jeena Cho

Clio Cloud 2015: The Globalized Market of Legal Services

Michele DeStefano, professor of law from University of Miami and founder of LawWithoutWall, and Michael Mills, co-founder and chief strategy officer of Neota Logic, Inc. stop by to discuss technology and globalization as well as interstate business models and collaboration. Tune in to hear what both the American Bar Association and law schools can do to help lawyers keep up with future trends. Listen Here: Clio Cloud 2015: The Globalized Market of Legal Services

Clio Cloud 2015: Washington State’s Limited License Legal Technicians

Patrick Palace joins Bob Ambrogi for a conversation about the adoption of the Limited License Legal Technician Rule in Washington State. Together, they discuss licensing for LLLTs, how this program will address the justice gap, and opportunities for future collaboration. Listen Here: Clio Cloud 2015: Washington State’s Limited License Legal Technicians

We hope you found this series of podcast interviews covering the Clio Cloud Conference informative and entertaining. If you liked what you heard, you can find more like it on our Special Reports channel in iTunes, Stitcher, SoundCloud, and LegalTalkNetwork.

Above the Law’s Academy for Private Practice


by Laurence Colletti

Above the Law's Academy for Private PracticeEarlier this month, we ventured out to Times Square, in New York City to see Above the Law’s inaugural Academy for Private Practice (or APP for short). The concept was initially put together in the ATL back offices by Hsiaolei Miller, V.P. of business development and Brian Dalton, director of research, but it quickly grew to enlist the help of the ATL gang. David Lat, Jon Lerner, Elie Mystal, Joe Patrice, Staci Zaretsky, Kathryn Rubino, Laura Kittredge, and Lauren Elkin were all recruited to pull it off.

So what is APP and why is Above the Law putting it on? As for the what, the simplest description is a collection of resources for lawyers wanting to practice in a small firm or solo. It is both terrestrial and virtual with real people, places, and information. There are future plans to feature eBook texts, podcasts, blog posts, and social channels to deliver useful content to lawyers everywhere. With an advisory board of Jeff Bennion, Nicole Bradick, Susan Cartier Liebel, Jeena Cho, and Niki Black, APP’s bench of expertise is deep. As for the why, Brian Dalton told us that ATL wanted to make an offering that would benefit the area where most lawyers practice — small firms and solos.

The following series of Special Reports hosted by Joe Patrice, Elie Mystal, and Jared Correia discuss APP and the lessons taught during its inaugural terrestrial event. Tune in for great advice and ideas from experts like Ed Walters, John Balestriere, Nicole Bradick, Rochelle Washington, Gaston Kroub, Monica Bay, Nicole Black, Carolyn Elefant, Jennifer Ellis, Lisa Solomon, Heather John, and Joshua Lenon. You can also access these audio interviews from our channel in iTunes.


Special Reports from the Event


ATL APP: Thinking Like a Lawyer and Thinking Like a Person:

In this episode, Thinking Like a Lawyer hosts Joe Patrice and Elie Mystal interview Ed Walters, founder of fastcase. Together, they discuss the importance for lawyers to see the perspective of others in their work and how attorneys don’t always understand what their clients want. Listen here: ATL APP: Thinking Like a Lawyer and Thinking Like a Person  

ATL APP: First Things First…

John Balestriere, Nicole Bradick, Rochelle Washington, and Gaston Kroub join Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice to discuss affordable and scalable ways to outsource administrative services in small firms and solos. Tune in to hear about options for receptionists, secretaries, payroll, and office space. Listen here: ATL APP: First Things First…  

ATL APP: Luncheon Remarks by Monica Bay

Former rock n’ roll journalist and current fellow at CodeX, Monica Bay hosts a luncheon discussion to talk about her 30+ years observing law and technology, the shrinking prominence of equity partners, and the importance of loving what you do. Listen here: ATL APP: Luncheon Remarks by Monica Bay  

ATL APP: Managing Solo Practice Workflow with Technology

This two part interview by Joe Patrice features thought leaders Jared Correia, Nicole Black, Carolyn Elefant, and Jennifer Ellis. Together they discuss leveraging technology for billing, cloud computing, and management. Listen here: ATL APP: Managing Solo Practice Workflow with Technology  

ATL APP: Blogging, Social Media, and Security

Jeff Bennion, Jeena Cho, and Lisa Solomon sit down with Above The Law’s Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice. Together, they talk about the use of blogging and social media in your law practice. Tune in to hear about personal information and whether or not you should share it. Listen here: ATL APP: Blogging, Social Media, and Security  

ATL APP: Are Branded Networks the Future for Solo Lawyers?

During a very lively time at APP, hosts Jared Correia and Elie Mystal interview Heather John, Susan Cartier Liebel, and Joshua Lenon. Together, they discuss the use of branded networks and the questions lawyers should be asking before getting involved with them. Listen here: Episode 6: ATL APP: Are Branded Networks the Future for Solo Lawyers?  

ATL APP: What is Above the Law’s Academy for Private Practice?

In this colorful dialog between the back office and the front office, hosts Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice talk with Hsiaolei Miller, V.P. of business development and Brian Dalton, director of research about APP and why Above the Law created it. Tune in to hear about future offerings and events custom designed for small firms and solos. Listen here: ATL APP: What is Above the Law’s Academy for Private Practice?

Legal Talk Network and the ABA Law Student Division Bring You the ABA Law Student Podcast


Legal Talk Network announces the launch of the ABA Law Student Podcast, a podcast covering the issues that affect law students, law schools, and recent graduates.

ABA Law Student PodcastDenver, CO – Earlier this month, Legal Talk Network launched a new podcast in conjunction with the American Bar Association’s Law Student Division—the ABA Law Student Podcast. Hosted by and produced specifically for law students, the podcast covers the issues that affect law students, law schools, and recent graduates, from finals and graduation to the bar exam and finding a job.

“We are thrilled to add the ABA Law Student Podcast to our network. Times have changed for law students and young lawyers. Law school is expensive, job opportunities and starting salaries are down, student loans are more difficult to pay back, and law students are under more pressure than ever,” Legal Talk Network Supervising Producer Laurence Colletti, who received his J.D. from Loyola University New Orleans College of Law said. “This podcast will offer valuable information on the changing scope of the industry for law students and recent grads. I wish I’d had a resource like this when I was in law school.”

ABA President Paulette Brown has said that “the ABA’s goal is to help law students confidently take on law school and transition into a meaningful legal career.” The ABA Law Student Podcast is just one way the organization is bringing value to the 115,000 law students who are eligible for free membership in the American Bar Association. The ABA also offers six months of free study tools for law students, and in addition to Law Student Division and Young Lawyer Membership, law students can also choose up to 5 additional free specialty groups. The ABA Law Student Podcast is free for all subscribers.

The first episodes of the podcast cover what the ABA Law Student Division is and what it intends to accomplish, sections, divisions, and forums law students should join, prepping for the bar exam, and Senator Lindsey Graham’s thoughts on getting through law school and working as an attorney.

Listen to the podcast on iTunes: ABA Law Student Podcast

In addition to being produced for law students, the ABA Law Student Podcast is hosted by law students Fabiani Duarte and Madison Burke. Duarte attends Mercer University’s School of Law and serves as chair of the ABA’s Law Student Division. Burke is the 12th Circuit Governor on the ABA’s Law Student Division Board of Governors and attends the University of Washington School of Law. The duo has already interviewed Senator Lindsey Graham, ABA President Paulette Brown, Professor Richard Conviser, and various division and section leaders from the American Bar Association for the podcast.

The podcast is available through iTunes, the Legal Talk Network app,, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, and Soundcloud. You can follow the podcast and join the conversation on social media using the hashtag #LawStudentPodcast.

About Legal Talk Network
Legal Talk Network is an online media network for legal professionals with podcasts that highlight current legal news and analysis as well as provide high quality educational content to its listeners. Legal Talk Network’s shows also cover the important tools, technology, and events that shape the industry. With award-winning hosts and high profile guests, listeners from around the world tune in for Legal Talk Network’s podcasts. Legal Talk Network is owned and operated by LAWgical, specializing in marketing, software, and media for the legal industry. Follow on Twitter @LegalTalkNet.

About the American Bar Association
With nearly 400,000 members, the American Bar Association is one of the largest voluntary professional membership organizations in the world. As the national voice of the legal profession, the ABA works to improve the administration of justice, promotes programs that assist lawyers and judges in their work, accredits law schools, provides continuing legal education, and works to build public understanding around the world of the importance of the rule of law. View our privacy statement on line. Follow the latest ABA news at and on Twitter @ABANews.

ABA Annual Meeting 2015


by Laurence Colletti

ABA LogoThere was much to discuss at the American Bar Association’s Annual Meeting. This past year marked the 800th anniversary of the Magna Carta, ushered in a national right to same sex marriage, witnessed widespread civil unrest with police, and saw an influx of unaccompanied minor immigrants. In addition, the practice of law is under siege from pressures to evolve. Be it data security, unavailable jobs, or gaps in justice, the wind is whispering change.

The scale of ABA Annual was enormous. With events, meetings, and presentations spanning across seven hotels in downtown Chicago, there was no way to see it all. Equal to the magnitude was the bravado of guest speakers with Senator Lindsey Graham, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, and Attorney General Loretta Lynch to name a few. There was certainly no shortage of expertise or topics to discuss. Whether it was language barriers in representation, domestic violence in the NFL, or combating the criminalization of homelessness, this year’s ABA Annual was loaded for bear.

The following series of interviews features our coverage of ABA Annual. We had the privilege of meeting with state court judges, district attorneys, and law professors as well as journalists, practitioners, and members of law enforcement. They shared their knowledge and opinions across a wide spectrum of issues including policing, voter’s rights, and medical marijuana. In addition, we talked about the number of women in the first chair, the 100th anniversary of the ABA Journal, and the launch of Ankerwycke Books, which is the ABA’s new publication outfit for entertainment and educational content.

Episodes from the Event


President Hubbard’s Year in Review

Outgoing ABA President William Hubbard talks about his tenure, the historic Supreme Court session, problems in the criminal justice system, the 800th Anniversary of the Magna Carta, and more. Listen here: President Hubbard’s Year in Review

Removing Language Barriers to Justice in the Nation’s Courts

Judges James Jordan, Christopher P. Yates, Edward L. Chavez, and Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye discuss the difficulties non-English speakers face in our court systems and possible solutions to the problem. Listen here: Removing Language Barriers to Justice in the Nation’s Courts

Who’s Responsible for Domestic Violence in the NFL?

Assistant D.A. Cleveland Patterson, Scott Andresen, and Randy Kessler talk about the role of the NFL when it comes to punishment rehabilitation of players who engage in domestic violence. Listen here: Who’s Responsible for Domestic Violence in the NFL?

Perspectives on Race, Communities, and Policing in Twenty First Century America

Director Sean Smoot, Professor Craig Futterman, and Professor Tracey Meares discuss perceptions of police power, crime rates, top stressors for officers, and body cams. Listen Here: Perspectives on Race, Communities, and Policing in Twenty First Century America

Combating the Criminalization of Homelessness

Casey Trupin, Brandon Smith, and Executive Director Jeremy Rosen talk about the unique legal issues faced by our nation’s homeless population and how homeless courts are being used to treat rather than punish those less fortunate. Listen here: Combating the Criminalization of Homelessness

Officer and Municipality Liability for Alleged Misconduct

Madeline Meacham and Michael Haddad talk about the potential for personal liability faced by police officers in the line of duty. Tune in to hear why it may be easier to sue an individual officer versus the city they work for. Listen here: Officer and Municipality Liability for Alleged Misconduct

Election Law: Redistricting, Gerrymandering, and Civil Rights

Benjamin E. Griffith, Robert Heath, Nancy Abudu, Tanya Clay House, and Director Nicole Austin-Hillery discuss election laws, the necessities for redistricting, and how our democratic system works. Listen here: Election Law: Redistricting, Gerrymandering, and Civil Rights

The ABA Journal’s 100th Anniversary

Allen Pusey, editor and publisher for the ABA Journal, discusses the journal’s independence from the ABA, distribution,100th Anniversary edition, and changes for the future. Listen here: The ABA Journal’s 100th Anniversary

Ankerwycke Books: The Author’s Journey

Executive Editor Jonathan Malysiak and authors David Lat, Ronald Fierstein, and Dina Gold talk about Ankerwycke Books, their respective novels, and inspiration for writing. Tune in to hear about this new publication outfit for entertainment and educational content. Listen here: Ankerwycke Books: The Author’s Journey

Why Aren’t Women Becoming Head Trial Lawyers?

Bobbi Liebenberg and Stephanie Scharf discuss the disparity of men vs. women as the first chair at trial and the possible causes thereof. Listen here: Why Aren’t Women Becoming Head Trial Lawyers?

Medical Marijuana and Employment Law

Joseph Yastrow joined us to talk about recent case law developments, federal vs. state laws, and how those elements affect medical marijuana use in the workplace. Listen here: Medical Marijuana and Employment Law

ABA Presidential Commission on the Future of Legal Services Hearing

Tom Bolt, Robert Hirshon, Chris Zampogna, and Fred Headon talke about possible updates to the Model Rules of Professional Conduct, non-tech innovations to help the practice of law, how small firms and paralegals are helping with access to justice, and suggestions from the Canadian Bar Association for maintaining a vibrant and relevant legal profession. Listen here: ABA Presidential Commission on the Future of Legal Services Hearing

NALA 2015 Annual Convention


by Laurence Colletti and Kelsey Johnson

2015 NALA Annual Convention LogoHeadquartered in Tulsa, Oklahoma, The National Association of Legal Assistants (NALA) is an organization that is dedicated towards advancing the quality of services provided by paralegals and legal assistants. Once a year, they host their annual convention where they have presenters and attendees from all over the country. Like many legal conventions, they offer CLEs, discuss developments in law, and have organizational meetings. One element setting the NALA convention apart is the attention spent on career development. With member exchange sessions titled ‘Are You Sabotaging Your Annual Performance Review?’ and ‘Speed Mentoring & Networking Workshop’, this organization is using strategy and vision to advance the careers of their members.

This series of podcast interviews encapsulates 2015 NALA Annual Convention and what was discussed there. Primarily hosted by Vicki Voisin, host of the Paralegal Voice, these episodes feature the leadership from NALA and affiliated associations as well as high profile guests like former Mayor of Tulsa Kathy Taylor. We hope you enjoy listening to these episodes as much as we had recording them.

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NALA Board of Directors Discuss their 40th Annual Convention: Vicki Voisin interviews NALA President Kelly LaGrave, First Vice President Cassandra Oliver, and Second Vice President Jill Francisco about planning the conference, their educational programs, and how to get involved. Click here to listen.

Keynote Mayor Kathy Taylor on the Importance of Literacy: Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews former Mayor of Tulsa Kathy Taylor about her advocacy work for childhood literacy and how paralegals can help. Click here to listen.

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Educational Sessions at NALA’s Convention (Part 1): In this first part of a two part series, host Vicki Voisin discusses the educational sessions with presenters Peter McGrath, Penni Bradshaw, Jeff Bennion, and Karin Scheehle. Together, they talk about the developments in environmental law, immigration law, and legal technology. Click here to listen.

Educational Sessions at NALA’s Convention (Part 2): In this last part of a two part series, host Vicki Voisin discusses the educational sessions with presenter Stacey Bowers. Together they discuss, corporate entities, understanding financial statements, corporate drafting skills, and ethical considerations in corporate law. Click here to listen.

NALA Affiliated Associations (Part 1): In this first part of a two part series, host Vicki Voisin interviews Yoli Garcia from the El Paso Paralegal Association (EPPA), and Linda Carrett, Carla Valenzuela, and Ruth Connolly from the Houston Paralegal Association (HPA). Together, they discuss being affiliated with NALA and the benefits it brings to their respective members. Click here to listen.

NALA Affiliated Associations (Part 2): In this second part of a two part series, host Vicki Voisin interviews Andi Elmore from the Kansas Association of Legal Assistants and Paralegals (KALA), Tove Sebring from the Capital Area Paralegal Association (CAPA), and June Brown from the Tulsa Area Paralegal Association (TAPA). Together, they discuss being affiliated with NALA, networking opportunities, leadership education, and certification opportunities. Click here to listen.

2015 Annual Florida Bar Convention


by Laurence Colletti and Kelsey Johnson

Florida Bar PodcastWe had the privilege of visiting The Florida Bar at their 2015 Annual Convention. Held at the beautiful Boca Raton Resort, we braved the summer heat and humidity to meet the members of The Florida Bar. What we saw was very impressive. From their leadership of passionate volunteer attorneys, we learned that there are amazing developments on nearly every front of Florida law. Whether it was advice from industry leaders like Mark Britton and Jack Newton or the insightful presentations from Florida Representative Michelle Rehwinkel Vasilinda and State Senator Maria Sachs, attendees were given a lot to take home.

2015 FloBar AC - Boca Raton ResortAs impressive as the trappings were, the thing we noticed most was how friendly everyone was. Whether it was outgoing president Greg Coleman, incoming president Ray Abadin, or director of the Programs Division Terry Hill, there was always someone to lend help or a friendly word. When we discussed this with Renee Thompson and Melanie Griffin, co-chairs for the annual bar convention, they agreed and furthered by mentioning reunions with colleagues, sold out hotels, and future emphasis on family-friendly venues. Despite over 100 thousand members, The Florida Bar has the camaraderie of a law school class.

This series of podcast interviews taps into developments in Florida law and the elements that make The Florida Bar the institution it is today. We hope you both enjoy and find them informative.

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1) President Greg Coleman at The Florida Bar Annual Convention:  The Florida Bar Podcast host Adriana Linares interviews Greg Coleman, president of The Florida Bar about his year as president and his focus on educating Florida lawyers about technology.  Click here to listen.

2) Raising the Bar on Civics Education:  Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti interviews Judge Michelle Sisco, Annette Pitts, and Richard Levenstein about the Constitutional Judiciary Committee and the Benchmark Civics Education Program at the 2015 Florida Bar Annual Convention. Click here to listen.

3) Transforming Practices Through Technology: Adriana Linares discusses Clio’s sold out event titled ‘InSession: Transforming Practices Through Technology’ with presenters Carolyn Elefant, Mark Britton, Jabez LeBret, Jack Newton, Toby Brown, and Ernest Svenson. Click here to listen.

4) Florida Law Update 2015:  Laurence Colletti sits down with Denis de Vlaming, Manny Farach, and Kevin Johnson to talk about their contributions to the ‘Florida Law Update’ seminar. Click here to listen.

5) Brutal Truths About Lawyers and Lawyering:  Author and attorney, Brian Tannebaum, talks about his practice and his new book titled ‘The Practice: Brutal Truths About Lawyers and Lawyering’. Click here to listen.

6) How Technology Will Affect the Future of the Justice System:  Keynote speaker Richard Susskind discusses technology, the future of the justice system, and his new book titled ‘The Future of the Professions’. Click here to listen.

7) Practice Resource Institute:  Jonathan Israel and Rod Bruce, from the Practice Resource Institute (PRI), discuss PRI resources and tools as well as CLEs for technology. Click here to listen.

8) Animal Law in Florida:  In part one of this two part interview series, Laurence Colletti interviews Florida Representative Michelle Rehwinkel Vasilinda, Florida State Senator Maria Sachs, Florida State Director for the Humane Society of the U.S. Kate MacFall, and animal law attorney Diana Ferguson about developments in Florida’s animal law. In part two, the discussion continues with Animal Law Committee Vice-Chair Gil Panzer and animal law lawyer Marcy LaHart. Click here to listen.

9) The Impact of Technology on Employment Law Issues:  Gregory Hearing, Robyn Hankins, and Judge Alan Forst talk about their presentations at the seminar ‘Don’t Crash on the Information Highway: What Every Law Firm Needs to Know About the Impact of Technology on Employment Law Issues’. Click here to listen.

10) Social Media, Expectations of Privacy, and Administration of Justice:  Social media lawyer and professor Ethan Wall discusses social media’s effect on the law including discovery, client expectation to privacy, and pollution to jury pools. In addition he talks about the experiences of Judge Belvin Perry who presided over the Casey Anthony trial. Click here to listen.

11)  Arbitration, Effective Joint Opening Sessions, and Ethical Issues for Mediators and Attorneys:  Bob Hoyle and Meah Tell from the Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) section join Legal Talk Network to discuss their presentations during the ‘Arbitration, Effective Joint Opening Sessions, and Ethical Issues for Mediators and Attorneys’ seminar. Click here to listen.

12) Electronic Discovery and Digital Evidence:  In this two part interview series, guests John Jorgensen, Steven Teppler, Christian Dodd, and Larry Kunin join Legal Talk Network to discuss their presentations during the ‘Electronic Discovery and Digital Evidence: Pre Discovery Through Trial’ seminar. Click here to listen.

13) Differences Among the DCAs:  Judge Stephanie Ray, Judge Morris Silberman, Judge Richard Suarez, and appellate attorney Ceci Berman join producer Laurence Colletti for an interview discussing motion practice, decision making, and what lawyers should and shouldn’t do to be successful in court. Click here to listen.

14) Counseling the Provocative Client:  Professor Donald Jones and entertainment lawyer Patricia Graham talk about their seminar titled ‘Counseling the Provocative Client’ with Legal Talk Network producer Laurence Colletti. Together, they discuss representation of controversial clients as well as institutional racism against hip hop artists. Click here to listen.

15) The Florida Bar 2016 Annual Convention:  In a fun interview about next year’s annual convention, Laurence Colletti catches up with The Florida Bar Annual Convention co-chairs Renee Thompson and Melanie Griffin. Together they discuss next year’s highlights, reunions with classmates, and emphasis on family-friendly venues. Tune in to hear why you should attend the 2016 Florida Bar Annual Convention. Click here to listen.

Temporary Protective Order Served via Text Message


Yesterday, District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Laura Cordero of the Domestic Violence and Civil Division rules that a defendant be served a temporary protective order via text message and email after multiple attempts at the woman’s residence and workplace were unsuccessful.

ServeNow broke the story with exclusive photos (Defendant Served Temporary Protective Order via Text Message) from Torri’s Legal Services, the company that served the individual.

The defendant in question was served the protective order following claims of harassment by a man who met her on According to the article, the man broke it off after a few dates, and the woman sent hundreds of text messages and emails, some including sexually explicit photos and messages and even a false claim of pregnancy even after the man asked the woman to stop.

Multiple attempts at the woman’s residence revealed she was likely working elsewhere, and as a government contractor she works on an Air Force base with restricted access. This led Judge Cordero to order the documents to be served over email and text messages.

While e-service, service through social media, and the integration of technology into the legal world has been a hot topic for sometime, this may be the first close look we’ve had at how service of process via text message would work, and what it would look like.

The process server did say she was surprised that she was not asked to serve the papers via certified mail (by far a more common form of substitute service), but speculates that given the evidence provided in the complaint, it was clear that email and text message were primary forms of communication for the defendant.

With the serve completed the process server says her client is ecstatic.

What do you think of this move?

David Lat’s Supreme Ambitions


by Laurence Colletti

David LatWe recently caught up with David Lat, founder and managing editor for Above The Law, while he was in Denver presenting at an event for the Colorado Lawyers Chapter of the Federalist Society. The event was titled ‘Above the Law, Underneath Their Robes, and Everything In Between: David Lat’s Supreme Ambitions’. It was in one part about David’s ambitious and unorthodox career path and in another part about the series of events and personalities that helped him get to where he is today.

With a restaurant recommendation from Kelsey Johnson, our online marketing coordinator, I invited David for an interview and he agreed. We sat in a noisy booth at the Appaloosa Grill at the corner of 16th and Welton. I asked him a series of questions about his new book, “Supreme Ambitions”, and the correlations it has to his real life. For those who have not read it, David’s book is a fictional account about Audrey Coyne, a young lawyer-to-be who graduated Yale Law School with a desire to clerk for the U.S. Supreme Court. The storyline is about friendship, morality, and the cost of ambition.

If you reminisce about your days in law school, studying for the Bar, or your time as a law clerk, I think you will enjoy this interview. We talk about the durability of friendship in legal circles, the importance of positive family role models, and relationships vs. personal achievements. Tune in to hear David talk about life, loss, and his next exciting frontier.

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